Richard Malsom / Malson marriage to Jane Brown, Blaisdon

Hi,

I have been a member of the site for a while, but emigrated to Perth, Australia, last October. I have been researching the Malsons/Malsoms for quite some time. It has been great to finally start catching up on my research after a six month break now that we are settled. It has been even more of a nice surprise to see so many others on the forum discussing the same family!

The only problem I have out here of course is access to the record offices - I can no longer just nip up from Wales to Gloucester to check something out.

I am looking for a record of Richard Malson and Jane Brown who (according to the IGI) were married on 10 Feb 1733 in Blaisdon, Gloucester. The records for this date aren't available on this site (I count myself very lucky so far as this site has been invaluable in my research) and so I was wondering if anyone out there has any information?

Best wishes
Kerri

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Richard:

Do you have an Annie Malsom b 26 Aug 1873, East Dean, d 18 Jul 1969 in your tree.?
She is the daughter of Benjamin Malsom 1835 to abt 1890, and married William Henry Bennett in the Forest Church, Drybrook 21 Apr 1900.

Mirrim. Mandurah Western Australia.

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Hi Mirrim,

Was Annies Grand-father William, bap 12th March 1797?

My gggggg-grandfather was Richard Malson who married Susanna Viner of Abenhall in 1763. They had 7 children, one of whom was my ggggg-grandfather William (1774) and Richard (1768) who I think was your ancestor. Richard married Hannah Yearsley on 3/12/1792 and one of their children William was baptised in 1797.

Does this sound right to you - I have mainly concentrated on my direct line but have some information in my files.

Kerri
Kallaroo, WA

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Hi Kerri,

No I have Annie as being the daughter of Benjamin Malsom (1835 - 1890) She married william Henry BENNETT 21 Apr 1900. Their daughter Annie May BENNETT married my Great Uncle. Ivor BOUGHTON in 1946.

Mirrim, Mandurah WA.

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Hi Mirrim,

I was very interested to see your reference to Annie Malsom and William Bennett as they were my grandparents. I don't remember Auntie May (as Annie May was known) as she died when I was a small girl, but I vaguely recall seeing Uncle Ivor once.

Esther

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Hello Kerri:
Do you have the parents of Hannah Yearsley or any of her sibblings?

Glen A. Yearsley

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Hi Glen,

The parents of Hannah was John and Sarah (nee Marfield). John and Sarah married 8/10/1760. Hannah married Richard Malson. I believe that she had at least a sister Sarah who also married a Malson, John - who was Richards brother.

I do have the full details and an explanation (there were 2 Sarahs born in 1765) which I will email you separately later - this is just off the top of my head - I made the mistake of checking my emails just before leaving the house
:-)

Will email you this evening (Perth time).
Best wishes
Kerri

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Hi Glen,

Information for John and Sarah Yearsley as follows:

John Yearsley (1738) mar. Sarah Marfield/Morfild (1740) at Ruardean, 08/10/1760.

Children:
Hannah (Yeasly - sic on baptism record), bap. 15/10/01761 Ruardean
Mary, bap. 29/5/1763, Mitchelton (residence stated as Ruardean)
Sarah, bap. 10/10/1765, Ruardean
Esther, bap. 28/4/1768, Ruardean

I have Hannah in my records as she married 'my' Richard Malson as the following shows (this is from my notes so it's a bit rough! - I'm sure you'll still get the idea). I'm not 100% sure about 'my' Sarah Yearsley who married John Malson - it could be 'your' Sarah (Hannahs sister) or it could be Sarah, born to Samuel and Martha, nee Gayney. Both were baptised in 1765 so it would be unwise to rule either out until I have further evidence.

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Gggggg-grandfather
7th Generation
Richard Malson
Bap: 24/8/1738, Westbury

Mar: Susanna Viner (born ~ 1738) 17/1/1763, Abenhall, Glos. Susanna buried 06/01/1815, aged 77, Abenhall, Glos.

Children:
1. Hannah, bap. 8/11/1763, abenhall, Glos., mar. John Thomas, Newland, 12/6/1791 (witness Richard Malson).
2. Thomas bap. 26/12/1765, Abenhall, Glos. Mar. Sarah (~1762 â€“ burial record) record of marriage found, but baptisms exist in abenhall). Thomas - 1841 census at Horsepool Bottom, Abenhall. Sarah buried Abenhall, age 76, 6/5/1838. Thomas buried Abenhall, age 80, 16/12/1846. Children:
o Richard, bap. 19/8/1804, burial 1805 or 1806 (there are 2 Richards recorded 17/4/1805 and 5/3/1806, both at Abenhall but no ages so difficult to differentiate).
o Richard, bap. 30/11/1806, Abenhall.
3. Richard, bap. 26/6/1768, Abenhall, Glos., mar Hannah Yearsley (bap. Hannah Yeasly, 15/10/1761 Ruardean â€“ parents John and Sarah, nee Marfield) 3/12/1792 (witness John Malson). Children:
o William 1797,
o Thomas 1794,
o Sofia 1804
4. John 04/02/1771 Abenhall mar Sarah Yearsley on 17/12/1794 at Newland, Glos. - witness Richard Malson. ( Sarah bap. 1765, from burial age, but 2 baptisms in 1765 â€“ could be Hannahs sister Sarah or Sarah born to Samuel and Martha, nee Gayney) . Sarah burial 26/11/1848, age 83 (census age probably incorrect on 1841 census record). John burial 12/04/1855, age 84, Abenhall
5. William bap. 06/03/1774 Abenhall, Glos., mar. Catherine Gibbs (see 8th Generation)
6. Mary, bap. 19/8/1778, Abenhall, Glos.
7. Mary, bap. 02/06/1783, Abenhall, Glos.

Note: Abenhall burials for Malsom/n are not recorded before 1799.

Death: 1805 or 1806 burial
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Glen, I hope this makes sense - if not let me know and I'll try to tidy it up a bit, it hasn't copied over too well.

Best wishes
Kerri

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Hi Glen,

And of course Mary Yearsley (1763) was actually baptised in Mitcheldean, not Mitchelton - will teach me to type a little slower!!

Kerri

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I have ancestor Richard Malson born 1706 who married Jane Brown 10 February 1733 in Blaisdon

I have them as having following children Mary 1735 and Richard 1738

Richard born 1706 parents were John Malson born 1666 who married Mary Hackett on 31 March 1689 in Westbury East Dean they had the following children
Jos. 1701 , Ann 1704 , Richard 1706 and William 1710 all of whom were baptised in Newnham.

regards

Pam

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Hi Pam,

Thanks ever so much for replying. You seem to have made the same tenuous links as I have!! However, I made these links a few years ago based purely on what seemed to fit with the information online. Although I have been to the Gloucester Record Office on plenty of occasions for the latter generations, I didn't get the chance to prove this one before leaving the UK. Thanks to the FOD website (i.e. the efforts of the transcribers) I have managed to firm up the 3rd Generation Richard Malson (1738) and Susannah Viner, in particular their children - the information I had on them was sketchy beforehand. I am not convinced by the link I have to the previous generation which is why I'm looking to prove/disprove with more concrete evidence. I am even less convinced by the link back to John (1666) which was why I was so pleased when I saw that you made the same connection!! Can I ask if you have anything more concrete, for instance the marriage record from Blaisdon - the only one I have is on the IGI and I don't always find that too accurate(I'm happy with the baptisms for Mary and Richard). I am more than happy to send you all the information I have on my tree, with sources.

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Unfortunately I haven't any proof of the early generations either but would be most grateful to receive what ever information you could send me, I could then cross check if I have anything in my notes that you have not already found.
Regards Pam

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I also have only managed to go back as far as Richard Malson and Susannah Viner. Although it is plausable that Richard was the son of Richard and Jane (Brown), I cannot be certain at this stage that this is correct.

My ancestor was Richard and Susannah's son also called Richard (1768-1855), he had a son William (1796-1874) who married Ann Smith, one of their sons was called Benjamin (1835-1890), who had a daughter Annie (1873-1969), who was my grandmother.

Esther

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