William Henry Jones and Bessie Morse (General)
Hello,
New to this list, but I've been around a bit (so to speak).The research I'm doing is actually my wife's tree. Her grandmother was Bessie Morse b1877 Old Furnace, East Dean. Bessie was the daughter of Samuel Morse c1856 Blakeney Hill & Mary Ann Green c1856 Awre.
William Henry Jones c1874 Moseley Green, his father was Henry Jones. Bessie & William were married 1898 at Viney Hill.
I've just got the marriage certificate and it states that Samuel Morse was a Publican. William & Henry Jones were Colliers. My question about William is that he was born Moseley Green, in the 1881 census there is a William Jones born West Dean and the address is Barracks,West Dean. Would this be Moseley Green William?. Another clue is that a witness at the marriage was a Margaret Jones and the Barracks Jones family had a daughter called Margaret(so did a lot of others I expect). Blakeney Hill/New Rd was the Morses area, in fact it still is as Bessie & William's son still lives in the same house. The Publican part is interesting, where was Samuel a publican in 1898. Any help would be great.
Regards
Jim
In a mild Cheltenham.
William Henry Jones and Bessie Morse
by shepway 
, Thursday, October 13, 2005, 07:14 (6777 days ago) @ Jim
The family living at The Barracks in 1881 is most probably the one you seek as it adjoins Moseley Green.
Samuel Morse's occupation in 1901 Census is Coal Hewer but looking at Gloucestershire Pubs web site: http://www.easywell.co.uk/pubs/ you will find a Samuel Morse is listed as the publican at the Travellers Rest Blakeney New Road in 1903.
Assuming that William's father is Henry then this is the best match from the 1851 Census:
Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place
2444 0007 023 Yorkley JONES William HD M 53 Coal Miner GLS West Dean
2444 0007 023 Yorkley JONES Susan WI M 51 - GLS West Dean
2444 0007 023 Yorkley JONES Richard SO U 21 Coal Miner GLS Parish of Newland
2444 0007 023 Yorkley JONES James SO U 16 Coal Miner GLS Parish of Newland
2444 0007 023 Yorkley JONES Phebe DA U 14 Servant at Home GLS Parish of Newland
2444 0007 023 Yorkley JONES Henry SO - 12 Coal Miner GLS Parish of Newland
No doubt Slowhands will contribute further/
Mike
William Henry JONES 1874 possible
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, October 13, 2005, 10:28 (6777 days ago) @ shepway
1861
William Jones abt 1798 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Susan Jones abt 1801 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Pheobe Jones abt 1839 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
1871
Susan Jones abt 1800 Yorkley, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Arthur H Jones abt 1861 Yorkley, Gloucestershire, England Grandson West Dean Gloucestershire
1881 Barracks
Henry Jones abt 1840 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Barracks, West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Ruth Jones abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Barracks, West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Annie Jones abt 1872 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Barracks, West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Eva Jones abt 1875 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Barracks, West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Kate Jones abt 1871 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Barracks, West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Margaret Jones abt 1880 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Barracks, West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Riley Jones abt 1879 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Barracks, West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Jones abt 1880 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Barracks, West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
William Jones abt 1874 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Barracks, West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
1891 Moseley
Jone, Henry abt 1841 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head
Jone, Ruth abt 1846 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Jone, Arthur abt 1888 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Jone, Fredrick abt 1886 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Jone, Margarett abt 1881 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Jone, Riley abt 1880 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Jone, Ruth abt 1884 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Jone, Sarah abt 1881 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Jone, William abt 1874 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
1901
William Jones abt 1873 Moseley Green, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Bessie Jones abt 1879 Blakeney, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Doris E Jones abt 1900 Blakeney, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Bessie MORSE 1878 Moseley Green
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Thursday, October 13, 2005, 09:39 (6777 days ago) @ Jim
1851 East Dean
MORSE Charles 40 Coal Miner East Dean
Jane 30 West Dean
Isaac 10 East Dean
Charles 7 East Dean
John 5 East Dean
Elizabeth 3 East Dean
James 7m East Dean
1861 Moseley Green
Charles Morse abt 1812 ??, East Dean Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Morse abt 1821 ??, West Dean Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Charles Morse abt 1844 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Dan Morse abt 1860 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Morse abt 1848 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
James Morse abt 1851 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
John Morse abt 1846 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Morse abt 1853 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Sam Morse abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
1871 Blakeney Hill
Charles Morse abt 1813 East Dean, Dorset, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Morse abt 1821 West Dean, Dorset, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Dan Morse abt 1861 East Dean, Dorset, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Martha Morse abt 1866 East Dean, Dorset, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Morse abt 1853 East Dean, Dorset, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Ruth Morse abt 1859 East Dean, Dorset, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Sam Morse abt 1856 East Dean, Dorset, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
William Charles Morse abt 1870 East Dean, Dorset, England Grandson East Dean Gloucestershire
1881
Samuel Morse abt 1855 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Morse abt 1856 Awre, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Bessie Morse abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Florence Morse abt 1880 Bitton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
1891
Morse, Samuel abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Morse, Mary Ann abt 1855 Awre Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Morse, Berrie abt 1878 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Morse, Frank abt 1890 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Morse, Henry abt 1883 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Morse, Samuel abt 1885 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
1901 Travellers Rest Inn New road
Samuel Morse abt 1856 Blakeney Hill, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary A Morse abt 1856 Awre, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Frank Morse abt 1888 Blakeney Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Samuel Morse abt 1885 Blakeney Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas E Morse abt 1890 Blakeney Hill, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
William Henry Jones and Bessie Morse
Thank you Mike & Slowhands for your swift and very helpful response.
One thing not connected is anyone having trouble with the FreeBMD site?.My computer is fast but takes ages to search that site, most of the time it takes so long I give up.This is all times of the day.
Jim.
FreeBMD
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Friday, October 14, 2005, 05:15 (6776 days ago) @ Jim
UK mornings are generally fine for me
from UK Mid day onwards I see a steady decrease in response
UK evenings can be very slow.
Try narrowing the search to a limited number of years or registration district. i.e. searching over a 15 year period for all JONES in Gloucestershire is a "bad" idea
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William Henry Jones and Bessie Morse
by Jeff Mowatt , Parkend, Monday, May 01, 2006, 04:59 (6577 days ago) @ Jim
Jim, I'm curious seeing the name Jones.
Only a week ago, my mother b.1918 mentioned that she had a great-grandmother named Jones (forename unremembered) living in Moseley Green, when she was a child in Pillowell.
I guess that would place Granny Jones pretty early in the 19th century.
Jeff