Albert Edwin Harper (General)

by Olwyn @, Monday, June 12, 2006, 07:52 (4971 days ago)

Does anyone have any information on Albert Edwin Harper whose birth was registered in Monmouth 1872?I think he lived always in the Dean and may have died about 1919.

Albert Edwin HARPER 1873 Moseley Green

by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, June 12, 2006, 11:35 (4971 days ago) @ Olwyn

best guess :-

Name: John Harper
Name: Tharassa Lee
Year of Registration: 1870
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 432


1871 Moseley Green
James Lee abt 1827 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Ellen Lee abt 1846 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Caroline Lee abt 1849 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
James Lee abt 1855 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Ruth Lee abt 1864 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Lee abt 1870 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Morgan abt 1796 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Visitor West Dean Gloucestershire
John Harper abt 1849 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Boarder West Dean Gloucestershire
Theressa Harper abt 1850 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Boarder West Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Harper abt 1870 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Boarder West Dean Gloucestershire


1881 Pillowell
Ellen Lee abt 1823 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Lee abt 1871 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Thersa Harper abt 1853 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Boarder West Dean Gloucestershire
Albert E. Harper abt 1873 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson West Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas J. Harper abt 1871 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Grandson West Dean Gloucestershire

1891 Oldcroft
Albert Harper abt 1873 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Boarder West Dean Gloucestershire

1901 Viney Hill
Albert E Harper abt 1873 Morley, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Monmouthshire
Rose E Harper abt 1875 Old Croft, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Monmouthshire
Albert A Harper abt 1899 Old Croft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Monmouthshire
Archie L J Harper abt 1895 Old Croft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Monmouthshire

John 1849 son of Thomas HARPER 1813 Ruardean Blacksmith

by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, June 12, 2006, 22:09 (4970 days ago) @ slowhands

see Thread
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=1979#p1979


1841 High St Ruardean
Jonathan Harpen abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean Gloucestershire Parish Clerk
Mary Harpen abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean Gloucestershire
Lucy Harpen abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean Gloucestershire
Thos Harpen abt 1814 Gloucestershire, England Ruardean Gloucestershire Blacksmith


1851 Ruardean
Thomas Harper abt 1814 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean Gloucestershire Blacksmith
Ann Harper abt 1793 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean Gloucestershire
John Harper abt 1850 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Gloucestershire
Lucy Harper abt 1848 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean Gloucestershire
Thomas Harper abt 1847 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean Gloucestershire


1861 Ruardean Woodside
Thomas Harper abt 1812 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Ann Harper abt 1823 Bremen Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Alice Ann Harper abt 1852 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Eliza Harper abt 1854 Breem, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
John Harper abt 1850 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Lucey Harper abt 1848 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Martha Harper abt 1857 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Peter Jas Harper abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Harper abt 1847 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

Thersa LEE 1850 Yorkley

by slowhands, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Monday, June 12, 2006, 22:33 (4970 days ago) @ slowhands

1851 Yorkley
James Lea abt 1827 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland Gloucestershire
Ellen Lea abt 1825 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland Gloucestershire
Caroline Lea abt 1848 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire
Tressa Lea abt 1850 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland Gloucestershire

1861
James Lea abt 1827 Parkend, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Ellen Lea abt 1827 Yorkley, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Caroline Lea abt 1849 Yorkley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
James Lea abt 1856 Yorkley, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Thirza Lea abt 1851 Yorkley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Lea abt 1859 Moslay Green, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

Albert Edwin HARPER 1873 Moseley Green

by Olwyn @, Tuesday, June 13, 2006, 02:34 (4970 days ago) @ slowhands

Thank you Slowhands I think you just might have come up trumps once again

Archie L J HARPER, born abt 1895 Oldcroft

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Monday, November 05, 2018, 02:35 (442 days ago) @ slowhands

1901 Viney Hill
Albert E Harper abt 1873 Morley, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Monmouthshire
Rose E Harper abt 1875 Old Croft, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Monmouthshire
Albert A Harper abt 1899 Old Croft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Monmouthshire
Archie L J Harper abt 1895 Old Croft, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Monmouthshire


I cannot find Archie within this site's Parish Records, however using FreeBMD can find;
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1919
Harper Archie L J Hible Monmouth 11a 98
Hible Clarice Harper Monmouth 11a 98

Thanks to the prior thread we know he was born in Monmouth District abt 1895. This means we can find his Birth Record despite the Records having apparently mis-spelt his name;

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Births Mar 1895
Harper Arche Leonard J Monmouth 11a 29

And also his death;
Surname First name(s) DoB District Vol Page
Deaths Dec 1972
HARPER ARCHI LEONARD J 12JA1895 WORTLEY 2D 2046

Wortley is in Yorkshire, see https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/wortley.html

This is confirmed when we search for possible offspring and find these Harper/Hible Birth records;

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

Births Mar 1922
Harper Albert D Hible Monmouth 11a 37

Births Dec 1923
HARPER Philip J Hible Monmouth 11a 27

Births Sep 1925
Harper Leonard Hible Monmouth 11a 35

Births Mar 1927
Harper Dorothy Hible Wortley 9c 602

Births Sep 1928
Harper Kenneth Hible Wortley 9c 538

Births Sep 1929
Harper Mavis Hible Wortley 9c 541

Births Mar 1931
Harper Deric A Hible Wortley 9c 521

Births Dec 1938
Harper Pamela J Hible Wortley 9c 407


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Now we have the dates we can look for more info from the GlosBMD site;
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx

Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
HARPER Archie Leonard John JAMES 1895 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 51 500

Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
HARPER Archie Leonard John HIBLE Clarice Forest of Dean Monmouth Register Office 1919 29 43

This explains why his marriage isn't within the Church aka Parish Records within this FoD site.

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FamilySearch gives;

1911 Census, West Dean, Monmouthshire, England
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Albert Edwin Harper Head M 38 COAL MINER HEWER. West Dean, Gloucestershire
Rose Ellen Harper Wife F 36 West Dean, Gloucestershire
Archie Leonard John Harper Son M 16 COAL MINER HEWER. West Dean, Gloucestershire
Albert Auston Harper Son M 13 West Dean, Gloucestershire
Rose Ena Bessie Harper Daughter F 9 West Dean, Gloucestershire
Lillian Harper Daughter F 7 West Dean, Gloucestershire
Harold Harper Son M 4 West Dean, Gloucestershire
Dorothy Harper Daughter F 2 West Dean, Gloucestershire

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This site's PRs include his parents' marriage, etc;

Record_ID: 199200
Entry_Number: 201
Year: 1893
Month: May
Day: 21
Grooms_Surname: HARPER
Grooms_Forenames: Albert Edwin
Grooms_Age: 19
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Slade
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: HARPER
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Engineer
Brides_Surname: JAMES
Brides_Forenames: Rose Ellen
Brides_Age: 18
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: Servant
Brides_Residence: Oldcroft
Brides_Fathers_Surname: JAMES
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: The mark of James Henry James
Witness_2: Eliza James
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Edward S Smith
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P348 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 101
Parish_Chapel: Viney Hill
Soundex_Groom: H616
Soundex_Bride: J520

Record_ID: 367545
Entry_Number: 149
Year: 1923
Month: Jan
Day: 5
Surname: HARPER
Forenames: Albert Edwin
Residence: Oldcroft
Age_at_death: 50
Officiating_Minister: C R Williams Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: R13 N49
Notes:
Register_Reference: P348 IN 1/18
Page_No:
Parish_Chapel: Viney Hill
Soundex: H616

Record_ID: 368402
Entry_Number:
Year: 1956
Month: Jun
Day: 1
Surname: HARPER
Forenames: Rose Ellen
Residence: 7 Harold Rd Yorkley
Age_at_death: 81
Officiating_Minister: G Waddington vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P348 IN 1/19
Page_No: 64
Parish_Chapel: Viney Hill
Soundex: H616

This FoD site's PRs also include Marriage Records for at least seven of Archie's siblings, found while searching "father Albert Edwin Harper", all at Viney Hill between 1922 and 1937.

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We also know Archie served during WW1.

Record_ID: 2202
Year: _
Surname: HARPER
Forename: Archie
Rank: Private
Regiment: _
Service_Number: _
Residence: Oldcroft
Notes_1: Enlisted 10_October_1914 _ _
Notes_2: _
Newspaper: _
Date_Published: _
Image: _
Soundex: H616

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