Richard PHILLIPS born Lydney 1817 (General)

by jason750_1, Thursday, April 28, 2011, 00:28 (3432 days ago)

Hi

I've just found this site after a days visit to lydney and Aylburton without much luck on my searches and I wonder if anyone can help?

I have traced my Mother's line back to a Richard Phillips born in Lydney in 1817. He is listed as having married a woman named Ann (b. 1808?) but I cannot find her surname. It has been suggested that she may have come from Berkeley originally but I cannot corroborate this.

After having searched the Gloucestershire records office, I have found a surname of Tyler for a woman married to a Mr Phillips that had 3 children (William 1841, Charles 1843, & Jane 1845). This seems to work with the detail I have for the children but I can't seem to get anymore info.

The helpful census records on this site have a Richard Phillips living in Aylburton in 1841 and then Huntley in 1861. These seem to tie in with his age if born in 1817.

The final piece of info I found here this evening is that a Richard Phillips was killed at Parkend on the 21/09/1869 and a Charles Phillips also died there on 10/11/1883.

If anyone can help me get any further info I'd really appreciate it.

Cheers

Jason

Richard PHILLIPS - born Monmouth (Jane TILEY)

by m p griffiths @, Thursday, April 28, 2011, 08:04 (3432 days ago) @ jason750_1

1841 Census, Aylburton


Richard PHILLIPS - age 25 - not born in County
Ann PHILLIPS - age 35 - born in County

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Gloucestershire BDM

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/


PHILLIPS - mother's maiden name TYLER - Forest of Dean, Lydney

William 1841, Charles 1843, Jane 1845


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1851 Census, Aylburton

Richard PHILLIPS - age 34, born Monmouth
Ann PHILLIPS - age 43, born Berkeley
William - 10 - all children born Aylburton
Charles - 8
Jane - 5


1861 Census, Civil Parish Newland (original on Ancestry, very faint) - inc. Bream, Bream Eaves, and Pastors???

Richard PHILLIPS - age 55, born Langatock, Monmouthshire
Anne PHILLIPS - age 60, born Hams Green, Gloucestershire (which is Berkeley, Glos)
Charles PHILLIPS, age 18 - born (transcribed as... Ashburton, Glos)

+

Lodger, Joseph SAINSAM age 66

NEXT DOOR


[b]William TILEY - age 30 c1831 ---- Coal Miner - born Bream[/b] IS THIS A RELATION OF ANN (nee TYLER/TILEY of) PHILLIPS
Jane TILEY - age 16 - born ditto
Thomas TILEY - 5 months, born ditto
Richard MORGAN, nephew age 4 - born ditto (FOD records, Richard MORGAN m Maria BEACH 10 November 1855, Newland)

(The only record so far is: William TILEY christened 24 April 1825, at Stinchombe - bas child of Maria - who possibly married Joseph FAWKE...)

Marriage on FOD records - 31 December 1860

William TILEY - Bachelor, full age - Collier, residence, Hundred of St Briavels,
father: William TILEY, labourer

married

Jane PHILLIPS, age 16, - Spinster, residence, Alvington
father: Richard PHILLIPS, labourer

married by banns

witnesses: John MORGAN and Phillis BEACH

other witnesses: Walter WILLIAMS


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1871 Census, Glos West Dean
Private House

Charles PHILLIPS, 28, Iron Miner, born Aylburton, Glos
Phillis PHILLIPS - 30 - born West Dean
Betty SMITH - age 63 - mother in law, formerly Chair woman, born Newland


1881 Census, Glos. Bream

Charles PHILLIPS - age 37 (place of birth, ditto from families above) saying born Bream
Phillis PHILLIPS - age 39 - born ditto
Elizabeth SMITH - age 73, mother in law, born ditto

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Marriage on FOD records at Bream - 14 June 1884


William ROBERTS age 60, Widower, Miner of Horreel Hill BREAM
father: Thomas ROBERTS, labourer

married

Phillis PHILLIPS, age 43, widow - residnece: Breams Meend

Brides Father's Surname : BEACH, Forename: Thomas, Collier, by Banns


witnesses: Richard WILDIN and Lucy Ann Wilden


1891 Census Bream

Phillis ROBERTS - age 50 - Head

Charles PHILLIPS

by m p griffiths @, Thursday, April 28, 2011, 15:19 (3431 days ago) @ m p griffiths

When William ROBERTS, married Phillis PHILLIPS (widow) of Charles PHILLIPS - witnesses were Richard & Lucy Ann WILDIN


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar - 1884


PHILLIPS Charles

11 June.


The Will of Charles PHILLIPS late of West Dean in the County of Gloucester who died 5 November 1883 at West Dean was proved at Gloucester by Richard WILDIN of West Dean Innkeeper and George BATTEN of Newland in the said County, Quarryman, the Executors.

Personal Estate £5


1881 Census Glos
Breams Meand?

Public House

WILDIN

Richard 33 - Innkeeper born Bream
Lucy - 28
William - 7
Charles - 5
Federick - 4
Lucy - 2

Charles PHILLIPS

by mossup12 @, Saturday, July 25, 2020, 18:47 (55 days ago) @ m p griffiths

hi i am currently investigating richard wildin and which pub in fact he owned,

Charles PHILLIPS

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Saturday, July 25, 2020, 20:37 (55 days ago) @ mossup12

There is an association here of a Richard Wildin with the Miners’ Rest, Yorkley.

BNA Monmouthshire Beacon - Saturday 04 April 1891

COLEFORD. Police Court, Tuesday.—Before Col. Davies (in the chair), Isaiah Trotter, Esq, and F. Blandy Esq.
Transferred. —The license of the Ostrich Inn, Newland, was temporarily transferred from Mrs. Ann Perry to Mr. John T. Fido, also the license of the Nag’s Head Inn, Whitecliff, from Mr. Henry Miller lo Mr. John Jones; and the Miners’ Rest, Yorkley, from Mr. Richard Wildin to Mr. William Baker.

Charles PHILLIPS

by mossup12 @, Saturday, July 25, 2020, 20:41 (55 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

Thats is so bizare. I just found a mention of the miners rest which was in the tufts bream . This is where richard wildin lives.

I wonder if yorkley was a mistake.

Thank you so much for replying

Charles PHILLIPS

by MPGriffiths @, Sunday, July 26, 2020, 14:09 (54 days ago) @ mossup12

Parkend Polling District - Township of West Dean, south 1878

WILDIN Richard - Place of Abode: Bream Tufts - house and garden - Bream Tufts

Morris & Co Commerical Directory & Gazetteer of West Dean 1876

WILDIN and HATHAWAY, limeburners, Breams Mesne
WILDIN Richard, jun., beer retailer, Bream Mesne


1881 Census, Gloucestershire, West Dean - Page 25 of 27

Tufts
Breams Mesne

Public house
Richad WILDIN aged 33, Innkeeper, born Gloucestershiure, Bream

Charles PHILLIPS

by MPGriffiths @, Sunday, July 26, 2020, 14:30 (54 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Under 'Inquests' on this site - and searching for WILDIN - there are quite a number and 3 for Richard (1880) (1881) and (1883)

1880 - was held at the Kings Head Inn, Bream Woodside
1881 - was held at the Rising Sun Inn Bream
1883 - was held at the Rising Sun Inn Bream


There may be other clues in these Inquests.

Charles PHILLIPS

by MPGriffiths @, Sunday, July 26, 2020, 20:57 (54 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Google:

The Tufts - Bream Heritage Walks

8 - The Tufts

The building 30 or so metres to the right is now a private house, but once a beerhouse or public houses and was called the Miner's Rest. etc etc.


..... later on in this article

An accident in 1864 was widely reported in the press. Stopping in for a drink three young men and their girlfriends were involved in a tragic shooting in the Miners Rest when one of the young men grabbed a gun from the wall and pointed it at another. The third pulled the trigger. Unfortunately the gun was loaded and the third young man, Charles Preest was killed.

etc.etc.


His burial is on FOD records

13 October 1864. Charles PREEST aged 16 - residence Bream


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British History on Line

'In the Bream area, the Rising Sun, on the edge of the Forest north of the old part of Bream village...... Later lincensed houses in the area included a beerhouse at Bream's Eaves in 1841, the Two Swans in High Street southwest of the Rising Sun in 1869, and the King's Head at Bream Woodside, the Miners' Rest at Bream's Meend, and the Miners' Arms on the Coleford road at Bream Tufts in the late 1870's. etc. etc.

Richard PHILLIPS- 1881/1891 census

by m p griffiths @, Thursday, April 28, 2011, 15:36 (3431 days ago) @ jason750_1

1881 Census, West Dean, Mill Hill

Richard PHILLIPS - age 73 (c1808) General Labourer, born Monmouthshire Vibon-Avel **
Ann PHILLIPS - age 76 (c1805) born Gloucestershire, Berkeley


** which is LLangattock (ties up with earlier census)


1891 Census, Pillowell

West Dean

transcribed as MARGASON (but census, badly written, looks like MORGAN)


William MARGASON - 48 - born West Dean
Jane MARGASON - 45 (Jane's 2nd Marriage) - born Lydney
Richard PHILLIPS - 80 - father in law, born LLanattock, Monmouthshire


1881 Census West Dean, Pillowell

William MORGAN - 38 - born West Dean
Jane MORGAN - 35 - born Lydney Parish

Ann TYLER/poss TYLEY

by m p griffiths @, Thursday, April 28, 2011, 18:03 (3431 days ago) @ jason750_1

Church of Latter Day Saints, baptism at Berkeley

Ann TILEY, 6 November 1808, mother Ann

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There is a Public Members Tree on Ancestry listing a

Mary TYLER, who married a Joseph FAWKE at Ledbury - 1838 - saying she was born in Berkeley - who in 1852, she marries a Robert JONES in Ledbury, Herefordshire


looking at the FOD records at Ledbury

Joseph FAWKE, Widower, of Falcon Lane, labourer

married

Maria TYLEY - Spinster, Servant of Falcon Lane,

father: John TYLEY, labourer - by Banns


Looking at the Gloucestershire Birth Index - there is a Maria TILEY - christened 7 December 1817 at Berkeley, mother Sarah


1841 Census Ledbury

FAWKE

Joseph - 50
Maria - 25
Joseph - 12
John - 10
Elizabeth - 1
James - 1 month


1861 Census, Herefordshire, Ledbury
Falcon Lane

JONES

Robert - 53 - Ag. Lab. born Castle Frome, Hereford
Maria - 40 - born Glos. Berkeley
David - 12 - born Herefordshire, Bosbury
Robert - 6 - all born Ledbury
Charles - 4
Alfred - 2
Sally - 7
Ann FAWKE, step daughter age 12 -


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Ann PHILLIPS (nee TYLER or TILEY) says she was born in Ham, Berekely

just in case....


1851 Census, Ham

Thomas TILEY - 33 c1818 - christening at Berkeley, 25 September 1817, mother Ann (labourer) no mention of father
Sarah - 29
Charles - 6
Sarah - 5
Fanny - 3

Richard PHILLIPS - born 1817, Monmouthsire Vibon Avel

by m p griffiths @, Saturday, April 30, 2011, 14:35 (3429 days ago) @ m p griffiths

There are Public Members trees on Ancestry: William PHILLIPS married Dorothy PERKINS 10 September 1804 - Llangattock Vibon Avel

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Monmouthshire Parish Record Transcripts - Christenings at Monmouthshire Vibon Avel


Baptisms 1787 - 1812

No. 269

10 September 1809 - John & Jas - twins of Wm & Dorothy PHILLIPS

No. 271

12 April 1812

Mary d/o Wm & Dorothy PHILLIPS

Baptisms 1813 - 1877

No. 12

Sarah - d/o Wm & Dorothy PHILLIPS otp labr

No. 40

Richd s/o Wm (ag Lab) & Dorothy PHILLIPS otp - 4 July 1816

No 89

Chas - ditto - 13 September 1819

No 181

Anne - ditto - 2 December 1825

No. 221

Jane - ditto - 11 October 1829

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1841 Census, Monmouthshire Llangattock, Vibon Avel, District 39

Perry Coed Cottage

William PHILIPS - 55 ag. lab. born in County
Dorothy PHILIPS - 50 - born in County
Jane PHILIPS - 10
Elizabeth PHILIPS - 85 - ag lab
Jane THOMAS - 40
John Cidley - 7
Edward THOMAS - 2 months


Burials on Monmouthshire Parish Record Transcript website

Burials 1813-1900 at Vibon Avel, No. 276

Dorothy PHILLIPS - Pentre Wood, itp - 31 August 1845, age 62

1851 Census, Monmouthshire, Llangattock, Vibon Avel

Perry Coed

William PHILIPS - (Widr) age 70 Ag Lab - born Llangattock
John WATKINS - 27 son-in-law - born Mon. Skenfrith
Ann WATKINS - 26 - born Mon. Llangattock V.A.
Jane - 5
John - 3
Eliza - 9 months

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No. 346
burial 11 May 1853, Wm PHILLIPS otp - age 76

William/Charles/Jane - family names given by Richard PHILLIPS to his children

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