Finnish ancestry in the Forest of Dean? (General)

by Helenkeenlyside, Monday, April 23, 2018, 11:43 (1245 days ago)

Hello
This is my first posting on here.
I am not from the Forest of Dean, but my grandfather was. In fact his entire family going back many generations were.
Recently my sister had a DNA test done and we found we have Finnish ancestry. It seems, from physical appearance,that it probably comes through my grandfather's line.
So I'm wondering whether-
a) anyone else has found they have Finnish ancestry?
b) has any research been done to show this?
c) are there any records with Finnish names on them?
Family names I've made extensive researches into are-
Morgan
Trigg
Sier/Seier
inc Sier Trigg
Burcher
Tingle
and more I can't remember!
Any help would be gratefully received.
Thank you

Finnish ancestry in the Forest of Dean?

by 10noyrum @, Monday, April 23, 2018, 15:32 (1245 days ago) @ Helenkeenlyside

I would be interested in your Morgan Family History which I have researched extensively in the Forest.

Finnish ancestry in the Forest of Dean?

by Helenkeenlyside, Tuesday, April 24, 2018, 12:14 (1244 days ago) @ 10noyrum

Hi
Thank you for your comment.
My Morgan family (I was born a Morgan) were largely from Cinderford. My grandfather was Arthur Morgan, son of Arthur Morgan (son of Samuel Morgan and Mary Burcher) and Margaret Sier Trigg. His mother died after giving birth to him. When he was 4 or 5 his father also died and he was sent to live in an orphanage.
Eventually he moved to the Rhondda valley and lived his life there until he died aged 75 in 1972.
I don't really have any ancient history to tell you as he didn't talk much about his family.

Finnish ancestry in the Forest of Dean?

by 10noyrum @, Thursday, April 26, 2018, 19:46 (1241 days ago) @ Helenkeenlyside

Summarizing what you have posted and adding the death of Margaret Morgan from this site:

Generation Number 1

1. SAMUEL MORGAN (born before 1839) and MARY BURCHER had issue:
1.1. ARTHUR MORGAN (born before 1860).

Generation Number 2

2. ARTHUR MORGAN (born before 1860; d about 1902) married about 1881 MARGARET SIER TRIGG (b about 1860; d 29th June 1897, age 37, Littledean). Had issue:
2.1. ARTHUR MORGAN (born about 1897, Cinderford).

Generation Number 3

3. ARTHUR MORGAN (born about 1897, Cinderford); died aged 75 1972, Rhondda. Had issue:
3.1. U/K MORGAN.

Generation Number 4

4. U/K MORGAN. Had issue:
4.1. HELENKEENLYSIDE NEE MORGAN.

I cannot find the marriages of SAMUEL MORGAN and MARY BURCHER or the marriage of ARTHUR MORGAN to MARGARET SIER TRIGG on the Parish Register searchable data base on this site. You may have different sources of information. If so, can you tell me where you obtained this marriage information? For example you may have the marriage certificates.

Finnish ancestry in the Forest of Dean?

by MPGriffiths @, Thursday, April 26, 2018, 20:27 (1241 days ago) @ 10noyrum

This tree is on Ancestry and from the links ...

The marriage of Athur MORGAN, and Margaret TRIGG - took place at the Forest of Dean Register Office - 1890

The marriage of Mary BURCHER to Thomas MORGAN - took place 23 December 1845, at Blaisdon, Gloucestershire

Looking at the Marriage Certificate (on Ancestry)

Thomas MORGAN, was a Collier, from Little Dean, father: James MORGAN, Collier

Mary BURCHER was was Blaysdon, and father was Robert BURCHER, a labourer

witnesses: Thomas & Elizabeth BURCHER

(no ages given)


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James MORGAN 1797-1866 married Charlotte PERRIN - 1801-1858 (marriage Little Dean 1 January 1820)


Charlotte was christened 12 March 1809 at Boxwell, Gloucestershire, base daughter of Betty PERRIN.


Looking at Boxwell Register on Ancestry - Charlotte also had a brother James b. 27 February 1799, mother again Betty


1841 Census, Boxwell

Betty PERRIN - aged 65 - born in County


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James & Charlotte are on the 1841/1851 Census, at Calamore, Little Dean

James is aged 52 on the 1851 census and Charlotte is aged 50

children: on the 1841 census, Thomas 15, Mary 12, James 8 and William aged 1

Finnish ancestry in the Forest of Dean?

by 10noyrum @, Friday, April 27, 2018, 02:39 (1241 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Thank you MPGriffiths.

Using your data and data from this web site, an initial stab at the Family History is as follows:

Generation Number 1

1. JOHN MORGAN (born about 1659) married 20th July 1680, Littledean MARY MARTIN. Had issue:
1.1. JOHN MORGAN (baptised 6th March 1681, Littledean).

Generation Number 2

2. JOHN MORGAN (baptised 6th March 1681, Littledean) married before 1696 AN U/K. Had issue:
2.1. GEORGE MORGAN (baptised 29th November 1696, Littledean).

Generation Number 3

3. GEORGE MORGAN (baptised 29th November 1696, Littledean) married MARY U/K. Had issue:
3.1. GEORGE MORGAN (baptised 28th March1736, Littledean, resident in Hundred of St. Briavels).

Generation Number 4

4. GEORGE MORGAN (baptised 28th March 1736, Littledean) married HANNAH BRAIN on 20th April 1779, Littledean (witnesses THOMAS GRINDEL and ANTHONY COOPER). Had issue:
4.1. JAMES MORGAN b 2nd July 1797, Littledean.

Generation Number 5

5. JAMES MORGAN baptised 2nd July 1797, Littledean married on 1 January 1820, Littledean, CHARLOTTE PERRIN. Had issue:
5.1. THOMAS MORGAN (born before 1839).

Generation Number 6

6. THOMAS MORGAN (born before 1839) married on 23 December 1845, at Blaisdon, Gloucestershire MARY BURCHER (witnesses: THOMAS & ELIZABETH BURCHER) had issue:
6.1. ARTHUR MORGAN (born before 1860).

Generation Number 7

7. ARTHUR MORGAN (born before 1860; d about 1902) m 1890 MARGARET TRIGG (b about 1860; d 29th June 1897, age 37, Littledean). Had issue:
7.1. ARTHUR MORGAN (born about 1897, Cinderford).

Generation Number 8

8. ARTHUR MORGAN (born about 1897, Cinderford); died aged 75 1972, Rhondda. Had issue:
8.1. U/K MORGAN.

Generation Number 9

9. U/K MORGAN. Had issue:
9.1. HELENKEENLYSIDE NEE MORGAN.

All needs further confirmation, particularly from Wills.

Finnish ancestry in the Forest of Dean?

by Helenkeenlyside, Friday, April 27, 2018, 12:26 (1241 days ago) @ Helenkeenlyside

Thank you for your replies

Finnish ancestry in the Forest of Dean?

by Helenkeenlyside, Friday, April 27, 2018, 12:29 (1241 days ago) @ Helenkeenlyside

Any research I have done has been on Ancestry.co.uk, and Family Search, the Mormon website. I have relied heavily on other people's trees.

Finnish ancestry in the Forest of Dean?

by Sammi65, Saturday, July 10, 2021, 01:31 (71 days ago) @ Helenkeenlyside

Interesting! I have just found a DNA cluster of Finnish matches with Mum. I have no known Finnish ancestry, but two illegitimacy 'holes' in my mother's tree - one in FOD and one in Kidderminster. Several of them go back to the same couple: Emanuel Nyman and Vilhelmina Blomerus, so the link is likely through one or both of their lines. Wondering if there could have been an influx of Finns at some stage to FOD and why?

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