Walford-info on the Young family (Edith and Frederick Harry) (Urgent)

by Jessica Dutton, Wednesday, October 05, 2022, 14:33 (513 days ago)

Hello from Australia! I am seeking information on my great grandfather Frederick Harry Young 1897-1953 and his mother Edith Young born June or July 1876. My family lived in Walford for many generations and both were born there. I’ve found their baptism records on this forum and some info on Ancestry.com but it is limited so I am hoping someone with local knowledge might know of my family.

Frederick doesn’t have a father listed in his birth or baptism records, and Edith doesn’t appear to have married or had any more children. I believe she went into service in Cheltenham. Unfortunately I can’t find her death certificate but I found a record for an Edith Young that might be her working as a servant at The Limes in Cheltenham when she was in her early 60’s. I’m hoping to find any information on Edith and her family. There is plenty of info on her siblings, but she is a bit of mystery. Many thanks, Jess

Walford-info on the Young family (Edith and Frederick Harry)

by MPGriffiths @, Thursday, October 06, 2022, 11:28 (512 days ago) @ Jessica Dutton

There appear to be two Edith YOUNG's listed as mother's around the same time in Walford: on being Edith LINK who married Richard Henry YOUNG 25 September 1897, so it is difficult to know, if the Witness to this wedding at Walford, 4 May 1900, is the Edith you are researching.

Using the Advance Search it is possible to search for witnesses, but the Bride is also a Servant at Walford.

4 May 1900

Joseph WARDELL aged 30, Bachelor, occupation: Tailor, Grooms residence: Mansfield
father: William WARDELL Florist

Elizabeth GREEN, aged 28, Spinster, occupation: Servant, Brides residence: Walford
father: Richard GREEN, labourer

by Banns

Witness 1: Arthur John GREEN
Witness 2: Edith Young

Parish Chapel: Walford


As Edith called her Son, Frederick Harry, if this isn't a family name on her side, it could possibly be the Father of Frederick's Christian name.

? Assume you have Frederick on the 1901 census living with Edith's family.

Walford-info on the Young family (Edith and Frederick Harry)

by MPGriffiths @, Thursday, October 06, 2022, 11:49 (512 days ago) @ Jessica Dutton

Edith YOUNG, born June/July 1876 - Not sure what info you have on Edith

There is this one on the GENERAL REGISTER OFFICE website (just have to register) as this gives mother's maiden name

Edith YOUNG - September Qtr 1876 Ross District - which covers WALFORD (Mother's maiden name: SERIGO)***
Volume 06A Page 482

Baptism at Walford - 9 July 1876,
Edith Young
Parents: Gilbert and Emma YOUNG.

*** Fod Record

Gilbert YOUNG, married Emma LEREGO - at Walford - 31 December 1864

*** GRO has SERIGO, checked with the brother Albert - and again, mother's maiden name SERIGO

YOUNG, Arthur, mother's maiden name: SERIGO
GRO Reference: 1878, D Quarter in ROSS, Volume 06A Page 476


YOUNG, Mildred AMANDA - mother's Maiden Surname: LERIGO
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter, in ROSS, Volume 06A Page 471

Ross Gazette: Thurday 3 April 1890

YOUNG: March 27, at Sharman Cottage, Walford, Mildred Amanda, daughter of Gilbert YOUNG 9 weeks.


Thursday 18 April 1906, Ross Gazette


YOUNG-MORGAN At Dingestow Church,
Frank LEREGO, youngest son of Mr Gilbert Young, Fair View, Walford to
Nellie, youngest daughter of Mr Stephen Morgan, Nantyrhylas, Monmouthshire.

Walford-info on the Young family (Edith and Frederick Harry)

by MPGriffiths @, Thursday, October 06, 2022, 12:11 (512 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

? On the baptism of Gilbert YOUNG's children, he is listed as a labourer.

The census' would be useful, as I don't subscribed to Ancestry any more, but do have access to British Newspapers on line.
(Not sure if you do?)

I think he seems to be correct man as this article appears - Thursday 24 November 1910- as he does have a Son, called Arthur (on the records, christened in 1878)


Mr Lewis said he regretted to have to report the death of Gilbert YOUNG, one of the oldest contractors and road foreman under that Council and its predecessors.

He had pleasure in testifying to the many good qualities and the conscientious manner in which he late Mr Young always endeavoured to discharge his obligations and duties.

He had, however, great satisfication in recommending the deceased's son MR ARTHUR YOUNG, who asked that the contract might be transferred to him. He might add that the work had been satisfactorily carried out by the sons for the past two years.

The Chairman said he thought the Council would be pleased to hear that the late contractor had given such great satisfaction, and that he had been such an efficient and goodworkman.

He was sure the Council would also regret losing him by death (hear, hear).

It was decided to transfer the contract to the son, as suggested by the Surveyor.


Assume Gilbert YOUNG left a Will


Government Probate Search

YOUNG Gilbert of Fair View Howle Hill Ross, Herefordshire died 21 October 1910.

Probate Hereford 17 December to Emma YOUNG Widow. Effects. £120

Walford-info on the Young family (Edith and Frederick Harry)

by Nick Dub @, Sunday, November 27, 2022, 14:01 (460 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

A few more bits of information, the first two taken from censuses :-

5 people in the 31st Mar 1901 census Howle Hill, Walford (mis-transcribed as Llowle)

Name Gilbert Young
Sex Male
Age 55
Road worker

Emma Young - Wife

Arthur Young - son - aged 22

Frank Young - son - aged 19

Fredrick H Young - grandson - aged 3 (no mention of a mother)



2 people in the 1911 census

Name Frederick Young - Grandson
Sex Male
Age 13
Event Date 1911

Name Emma Young - Widowed
Sex Female
Age 64
Event Date 1911 - place Walford


Fairview house mentioned in a previous post is next to Chapel House Howle Hill.

Howle Hill is a scattered community of 100 or so houses. It is In Walford parish but is a good 10 minute walk from Walford Village. Howle Hill once had a church and a Chapel, both now private houses.

PS I was born in Ruardean and have lived on Howle Hill for the last 40 years.

Frederick Harry YOUNG 1897 - 1953 Walford

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, February 01, 2023, 17:04 (394 days ago) @ Jessica Dutton

First name(s) Frederick H
District Hereford
Last name Young
County Herefordshire
Gender Male
Volume 9A
Birth day -
Page 16
Birth month -
Country England
Birth year 1897
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Age 56
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death quarter 3
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Death year 1953
Collections from Great Britain, England

1939 Caretakers House County Office Central Avenue, Hereford,
Fredrick Henry Young 29 Apr 1897 Male Caretaker County Officer Married 285 1
Daisy L Miller (Young) 27 Feb 1897 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 285 2
Vera Olive Morris (Young) 21 Feb 1921 Female Incapacitated Single 285 3
Joan M Symonds (Young) 21 Apr 1924 Female Shop Assistant Single 285 4
Dennis F Young 11 Dec 1927 Male At School - 285 5
John Owen Young 03 Jul 1930 Male At School - 285 6

Frederick Harry Emma Daisy Louisa +1 other

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1920 (>99%)
Wood Daisy L Young Hereford 6a 1508
Young Frederick H Wood Hereford 6a 1508

First name(s) Frederick Harry Ship name Gloucester
Last name Young Piece number 926
Birth year 1897 Series ADM 188
Birth date 29 Apr 1897
Record set British Royal Navy & Royal Marines, Battle Of Jutland 1916 Servicemen
Birth town Walford
Archive reference ADM 188/926/29940

1911 Fair View Wool Ford Ross
Emma Young Head Widow Female 64 1847 - Walford Herefordshire
Frederick Young Grandson - Male 13 1898 At school Walford Herefordshire

1901 Hill Quarry, Howle Hill,
Gilbert Young Head Married Male 55 1846 Road contractor Herefordshire, England
Emma Young Wife Married Female 54 1847 - Herefordshire, England
Arthur Young Son Single Male 22 1879 Road workman Herefordshire, England
Frank Young Son Single Male 19 1882 Road workman Herefordshire, England
Fredrick H Young Grand son Single Male 3 1898 - Herefordshire, England

Year: 1897
Month: May
Day: 27
Parents_Surname: YOUNG
Child_Forenames: Frederick Harry
Fathers_Forenames: Edith
Mothers_Forenames: Edith
Residence: Howle Hill Walford
Occupation: Domestic Servant
Officiating_Minister: John Cecil May Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: born 29 Apr 1897 [Baptism took place] at Howle Hill
Register_Reference: CD20/1
Page_Number: 74
Parish_Chapel: Walford

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Edith YOUNG 1876 Walford

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, February 01, 2023, 17:41 (394 days ago) @ Jessica Dutton

1939 The Limes Bayshill Rd Cheltenham at least one record is redacted which would suggest that she may have been alive until recently if she was at the The Limes in 1939 aged 63 or so

1901 Hillfield, St Mark’s Cheltenham,
Edith Young Servant Single Female 24 1877 Housemaid (domestic) Herefordshire, England Walford Wye

1891 Moat Farm, Hope Mansell,
Edith Young Servant Single Female 14 1877 General servant Walford, Herefordshire, England

1891 Walford
Gilbert Young Head Married Male 45 1846 Roadman Walford, Herefordshire, England
Emma Young Wife Married Female 44 1847 - Walford, Herefordshire, England
James Young Son Single Male 24 1867 Postman Walford, Herefordshire, England
Mary Young Daughter Single Female 18 1873 - Walford, Herefordshire, England
Arthur Young Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Walford, Herefordshire, England
Frank Young Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Walford, Herefordshire, England

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1876 (>99%)
YOUNG Edith Ross 6a 482

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