Any Gypsy connections? (Urgent)

by Mac74, Saturday, January 28, 2023, 08:28 (450 days ago)

Hi All
After searching thru site i come across my Ancestors Tippins and what Family have told me their may of been a Romany connections thats what they said when the Tippins im related (Noah) visited family in South Wales on occasion is there any proof in this or just rumour?
I have the same question regarding other Family from Forest of Dean Surnames Saunders, Mason, Barnard, Baldwin ?
Did any of these families have Romany ancestry or maybe married into other Families from the Forest?
Any help tips or suggestions would be really appreciated
Great website by the Way!!
Many Thanks
Mac

Noah F TIPPINS 1891 - 1980 Kinnersley HER -> S Wales ?

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, January 28, 2023, 20:28 (449 days ago) @ Mac74

First name(s) Noah Francis
Registry Oxford
Last name Tippins
County Glamorganshire
Death year 1980
Country Wales
Death date 17 Mar 1980
Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
Probate year 1980
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Probate date 29 May 1980
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Residence town Swansea


First name(s) Noah Francis
District Neath
Last name Tippins
County Glamorganshire
Gender Male
Volume 27
Birth day 3
Page 1945
Birth month 11
Country Wales
Birth year 1891
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Age -
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death quarter 1
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Death year 1980
Collections from Great Britain, Wales

First name(s) Elizabeth Annie District West Glamorgan
Last name Tippins County Glamorganshire
Gender Female
Volume 8B
Birth day 23 Page 3142
Birth month 7 Country Wales
Birth year 1887
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Age -
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death quarter 3
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Death year 1971
Collections from Great Britain, Wales


Marriages Sep 1915 (>99%)
Ball Elizabeth A Weobley 6a 1416
Tippins Noah F Weobley 6a 1416


1921
George and Mary Ann still in Weobly

1911 Showles Bank, Weobly
George Tippins Head Married Male 53 1858 Cowman on farm Breinton Herefordshire
Mary Ann Tippins Wife Married Female 47 1864 - Hereford Herefordshire
Ellen Tippins Daughter Single Female 24 1887 Domestic servant general Yazor Herefordshire
Amy Tippins Daughter - Female 12 1899 School Yazor Herefordshire
Gladys Tippins Daughter - Female 8 1903 - Yazor Herefordshire
Earney Tippins Son - Male 4 1907 - Mande Gamage Herefordshire


1901 Upperton, Yazor
George Tippins Head Married Male 42 1859 Cowman on farm Eaton Bishop, Herefordshire, England
Mary Ann Tippins Wife Married Female 39 1862 - Woolhope, Herefordshire, England
Mary Ann Tippins Daughter - Female 11 1890 Scholar Kinnersley, Herefordshire, England
Noah F Tippins Son - Male 9 1892 Scholar Kinnersley, Herefordshire, England
William G Tippins Son - Male 7 1894 - Herefordshire, England
Rosa M Tippins Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Yazor, Herefordshire, England
Edith E Tippins Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Yazor, Herefordshire, England
Cecilia A Tippins Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Yazor, Herefordshire, England
Ethel E Tippins Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Yazor, Herefordshire, England
First name(s) Noah Francis
Country England
Last name Tippins
Volume 6A
Birth quarter 4
Page 493
Birth year 1891
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name -
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Weobley
Subcategory Civil Births
County Herefordshire


1891 Newton Kinnersley
George Tippins Head Married Male 31 1860 Agricultural labourer Breinton Herefordshire, England
Mary A Tippins Wife Married Female 26 1865 - Woolhope, Herefordshire, England
- Tippins Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Herefordshire, England
Alice Tippins Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Herefordshire, England
Mary A Tippins Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Herefordshire, England
Rose Parker Niece - Female 13 1878 - Herefordshire, England


1881 Mansell Lacy
George Tippens Head Married Male 60 1821 Farm servant Staunton on Arrow, Herefordshire, England
Ann Tippens Wife Married Female 70 1811 - Wormsley, Herefordshire, England
George Tippens Son Single Male 22 1859 Farm servant Brinton, Herefordshire, England
Rose Parker Grand daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Abbey Dore, Herefordshire, England

1871 Holmer nr Hereford
George Tippings Head - Male 51 1820 Shepherd Herefordshire, England
Ann Tippings Wife - Female 53 1818 - Herefordshire, England
Eliza Tippings Daughter - Female 23 1848 - Herefordshire, England
Noah Tippings Son - Male 21 1850 - Herefordshire, England
George Tippings Son - Male 14 1857 - Herefordshire, England

1861 Portway, Burghill, nr Hereford
George Tippins Head Married Male 40 1821 Agricultural labourer Staunton on Arrow, Herefordshire, England
Ann Tippins Wife Married Female 52 1809 - Wormsley, Herefordshire, England
Eliza Tippins Daughter - Female 13 1848 Scholar Herefordshire, England
Noah Tippins Son - Male 11 1850 Scholar Herefordshire, England
George Tippins Son - Male 4 1857 - Eaton Bishop, Herefordshire, En

1851 UpperHill nr Leominster
George Tipnis Head Married Male 34 1817 Ag labourer Monkland, Herefordshire, England
Ann Tipnis Wife Married Female 34 1817 - Wormsley, Herefordshire, England
Eliza Tipnis Daughter - Female 3 1848 - Herefordshire, England
Noah Tipnis Son - Male 0 1851 - Kings Pyon Herefordshire, England

Marriages Sep 1847 (>99%)
Powell Ann Weobley 26 291
TIPPINS George Weobly 26 291


1841 Ley Farm, Weobley
George Tippins Male 20 1821 Herefordshire, England Ag Lab


Possible Baptism
First name(s) George Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Tippings
Mother's last name - Sex Male
County Herefordshire
Birth year -
Country England
Baptism year 1819
Record set Herefordshire Baptisms
Baptism date 12 Jul 1819
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Monkland
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Tippings

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Noah TIPPINS 1850 - 1880 Kings Pyon HER

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, January 29, 2023, 09:24 (449 days ago) @ slowhands

Births Jun 1850 (>99%)
Tippins Noah Weobley 26 269

First name(s) Noah Mother's first name(s) Ann
Last name Tippens
Mother's last name -
Sex Male
County Herefordshire
Birth year -
Country England
Baptism year 1850
Record set Herefordshire Baptisms
Baptism date 11 Aug 1850
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place King's Pyon
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Father's first name(s) George
Collections from England, Great Britain
Father's last name Tippens


Deaths Jun 1880 (>99%)
Tippins Noah 30 Hereford 6a 310

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Any Gypsy connections?

by Mac74, Sunday, January 29, 2023, 13:34 (449 days ago) @ Mac74

Afternoon
Many thanks with all the posts on Noah great stuff????i take it no Romany roots with the Tippins then still wondering about the Masons Barnards Saunders Baldwin Ricketts or Chivers families
Thankyou again for replies????
Mac

Any Gypsy connections? Wisdom SMITH Cinderford (DUBERLEY)

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, January 29, 2023, 18:29 (448 days ago) @ Mac74

In word nothing has come up yet - an Example of a "travelling" family who show up in Cinderford - SMITH not an uncommon Travelling surname - and you can see some of the associated birth places

Possible offspring
Births Sep 1931 (>99%)
Smith Annie Duberley Ledbury 6a 640

Marriages Mar 1931 (>99%)
DUBERLEY Annie Smith Westbury S. 6a 385
Smith Wisdom Duberley Westbury S. 6a 385

1939 Encampment, Falne, Elton, Newnham,
Wisdom Smith 23 Aug 1892 Male Metal Dealer Married 120 1
Sarah A Smith 27 Oct 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 120 3
James Smith 04 May 1914 Male Metal Dealer Single 120 4
Moses J Smith 10 Sep 1923 Male Metal Dealer Single 120 5
Noamy (Klas Sonny Michael) Smith 10 Sep 1925 Male Metal Dealer Single 120 6
The record for this person is officially closed.

Charlotte Smith 17 Mar 1928 Female At School Single 120 8
Moses Smith 10 Dec 1914 Male Metal Dealer Single 120 9
Nelson Smith 31 Dec 1916 Male Metal Dealer Married 120 10
Ella Smith 18 Oct 1921 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 120 11
The record for this person is officially closed.

John Dubberley 01 Aug 1910 Male Metal Dealer Married 120 13
Lea Dubberley 16 Sep 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 120 14
The record for this person is officially closed.

The record for this person is officially closed.

The record for this person is officially closed.

Also

1939 Station St Cinderford
Wisdom Smith 15/11/1893 Hawker
Annie Smith 21/6/1901 Hawker

1921 Parents in Kettering ?

1911 Caravan St James Northampton
Wisdom Smith Head Married Male 37 1874 Marine dealer Little Barton Rutlandshire
Louise Smith Wife Married Female 36 1875 Hawker Northampton
Wisdom Smith Son Single Male 17 1894 - Northampton
Rose Smith Daughter Single Female 15 1896 - Kettering Northamptonshire
Emma Smith Daughter - Female 12 1899 - Denton Northamptonshire
William Smith Son - Male 10 1901 - Old Bradwell Buckingham
May Smith Daughter - Female 7 1904 - Northampton
Violet Smith Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Northampton
Ivy Smith Daughter - Female 3 1908 - Northampton
Thomas Smith Son - Male 1 1910 - Northampton


1901 Travelling Caravan in Field, Newport Road, Bradwell, Bucks
Shady Smith Head Married Male 62 1839 Travelling cocoanut thraver Worcestershire, England
Emily Smith Wife Married Female 55 1846 - Towcester, Northamptonshire, England
Emily Smith Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Hawker of brushes Great Linford, Buckinghamshire, England
Florrie Smith Daughter Single Female 15 1886 Hawker of brushes Northamptonshire, England
Eliza Smith Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Towcester, Northamptonshire, England

1881 Trumpet Orchard Traveling Caravan, Weston Favell, Northampton,
Shadrach Smith Head Married Male 40 1841 Travelling caravan hawker Worcestershire, England
Emily Smith Wife Married Female 35 1846 Travelling caravan hawker Towcester, Northamptonshire, England
Isabella Smith Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Licenced hawker Towcester, Northamptonshire, England
Wisdom Smith Son Single Male 12 1869 Assistant (hawker) Oakham, Rutland, England
Resevir Smith Daughter Single Female 10 1871 - Foster's Booth, Northamptonshire, England
Mary Smith Daughter Single Female 7 1874 - Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, England
Shadrach Smith Son Single Male 3 1878 - Kettering, Northamptonshire, England
Samuel Smith Son Single Male 0 1881 - Lynford, Buckinghamshire, England

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Any Gypsy connections? SMITH DUBERLEY Crump 1939

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, February 07, 2024, 12:08 (75 days ago) @ slowhands

1939 Caravan Crump Meadow
Tom Smith 28 May 1909 Male Home Dealer Married 148 1
Phyllis Smith 10 Oct 1890 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 148 2
Phoebe Smith 01 Oct 1919 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 148 3
Minnie Goodwin (Smith) 30 Oct 1921 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 148 4
The record for this person is officially closed.
Ann Goodwin (Smith) 01 Jan 1929 Female At School Single 148 6
Ann Goodwin (Smith) 30 Oct 1927 Female At School Single 148 6

1939 Caravan Crump Meadow
Susanna Newman 28 Aug 1864 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 150 1
Neptune Smith 09 Apr 1900 Male Public Works Contractor's Labourer Single 150 2

1939 Caravan Crump Meadow
Frederick Dubberyley 25 Oct 1906 Male Car Backer & Dealer Married 149 1
Daisy Dubberyley 06 Aug 1915 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 149 2
Dennis Dubberyley 07 Jan 1938 Male Under School Age Single 149 3

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Any Gypsy connections? SLENDER travelling family

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, January 29, 2023, 18:30 (448 days ago) @ Mac74

another example

1911 Caravan Grimstone Kings Lynn,
Thomas Brown Head Single Male 20 1891 Hawker -
William Slender Head Married Male 76 1835 Hawker Kent
Sophia Slender Wife Married Female 62 1849 - Worcester
Lily Slender Daughter Single Female 20 1891 - Colcester

1901 (Caravans), 2, Norwich Road, Lowestoft, Mutford,
Samuel Smith Head Married Male 60 1841 Furniture to hawker London, Middlesex, England
Edward Smith Son Single Male 30 1871 Furniture to hawker Reading, Berkshire, England
Ben Smith Son Single Male 26 1875 Furniture to hawker Oxfordshire, England
Patience Smith Daughter Single Female 20 1881 - Not Known
Alfred Smith Son Single Male 18 1883 Furniture to hawker Suffolk, England

William Slender Head Married Male 63 1838 Furniture to hawker Not Known
Sophia Slender Wife Married Female 56 1845 - Worcestershire, England
Lena Slender Daughter Single Female 18 1883 - FOD Gloucestershire, England
Lil Slender Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - FOD Gloucestershire, England
William Slender Son Single Male 23 1878 Furniture to hawker Monmouthshire, Wales
Tom Slender Son Single Male 11 1890 - Billericay, Essex, England
Traton Slender Son Single Male 10 1891 - Yoxford, Suffolk, England
Roger Slender Son Single Male 20 1881 Furniture to hawker Wantage, Berkshire, England

1891 Oaken Wood nr Parkend – SLENDER family I believe
William Shnder Head Married Male 53 1838 Travelling hawker Kent, England
Sophia Shnder Wife Married Female 47 1844 Travelling hawker Worcestershire, England
Bertha Shnder Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Travelling hawker Ross, Herefordshire, England
Nora Shnder Daughter Single Female 17 1874 Travelling hawker East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Billy Shnder Son Single Male 15 1876 Travelling hawker Monmouth
Nicholas Shnder Son Single Male 13 1878 Travelling hawker Suffolk, England
Righteven Shnder Son Single Male 11 1880 Travelling hawker Wantage, Berkshire, England
Caroline Shnder Daughter - Female 9 1882 Travelling hawker East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Sophia Shnder Daughter - Female 7 1884 Travelling hawker East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Tom Shnder Son - Male 5 1886 Travelling hawker Essex, England
Straiton Shnder Son - Male 3 1888 Travelling hawker Yoxford, Suffolk, England
Lilly Shnder Daughter - Female 0 1891 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England

1871 In a Tent on the Stalling Down, Lanblethian, Bridgend
William Slender Head - Male 29 1842 - Surrey, England
Sophia Slender Wife - Female 22 1849 - Worcestershire, England
Minnie Slender Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Gloucestershire, England
Bertha Slender Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Herefordshire, England

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Any Gypsy connections? ROFFE ( ROSS) and SMITH

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Sunday, January 29, 2023, 18:31 (448 days ago) @ Mac74

another encampment in the Forest

1861 Tent No 1, 2, Mosley Green,
Henry Roffe Head Married Male 46 1815 Gipsy on tramp Gloucestershire, England
Lucy Roffe Wife Married Female 46 1815 Gipsy Gloucestershire, England


1861 Tent No 2, 2, Mosley Green, West Dean
Sophia Smith Head Married Male 67 1794 Travelling gipsy Stratton, Wiltshire, England
Sarah Smith Wife Married Female 50 1811 Travelling gipsy Preston, Warwickshire, England
Torich Smith Son - Male 19 1842 Travelling gipsy West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Limpaton Smith Daughter - Female 16 1845 Travelling gipsy West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Smith Daughter - Female 13 1848 Travelling gipsy West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Elijah Smith Son - Male 7 1854 Travelling gipsy West Dean, Gloucestershire, England

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Any Gypsy connections? ROFFE ( ROSS) and SMITH

by Mac74, Monday, January 30, 2023, 16:13 (448 days ago) @ slowhands

Hi all
No links with them families that i know if bit thanks for taking time out to post very interesting i never knew Roffe was a Gypsy surname
My ancestors are Thru Noah Mason Charlotte Agnes Saunders their lines seem to be connected to Zilla Chivers , a Barnard Baldwin Marriage and Bendingo Tippins not sure where Romany ancestry rumours are from if not thru The Male Side of Mason and Tippins im now wondering if its thru the women they married ? Saunders Chivers Ricketts and Barnard i think Barnards married into Smith and maybe a Dixon connection ?
Looks like ill have to research The site abit more????
Many thanks again
Mac

Abednego TIPPINS - Deja vu

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, January 31, 2023, 09:05 (447 days ago) @ Mac74

Well almost 10 years ago I did some research here, on Shadrach TIPPINS 1851 son of Abednego 1825
The biblical trio of names Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, would no doubt have been familiar to the enumerator, the spelling may have been a challenge ! and also may pose challenges to the modern transcriber.
A point here it was not uncommon for Traveller families to use “unusual” first names for their children – Shadrach, Neptune, Wisdom, Cinderella,Freedom for example

First name(s) Shadrack Country England
Last name Tippins
Father's first name(s) Abednego Gender Male
Father's last name Tippins
Birth year -
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Birth place -
Mother's last name -
Baptism year 1851
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Baptism date 09 Feb 1851
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place Newland


1851 Scowles
Bendigs Tippins Head Married Male 26 1825 Miner Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Ann Tippins Wife Married Female 26 1825 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Ann Maria Tippins Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1848 Scholar Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Tippins Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Shadrach Tippins Son - Male 0 1851 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England

Living /enumerated next to Richard (75) and Sarah Tippins Richard is described as a Pauper / Chimney Sweep

Year: 1856
Month: Mar
Day: 5
Surname: TIPPINS
Forenames: Richard
Residence: Scowles
Age_at_death: 84
Officiating_Minister: John Hawksley Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/27
Page_No: 85
Parish_Chapel: Newland


1841 Scowles
Richard Tippins Male 60 1781 Gloucestershire, England Sweep
Hannah Tippins Female 65 1776 Gloucestershire, England
Hannah Tippins Female 25 1816 Gloucestershire, England
Margaret Tippins Female 20 1821 Gloucestershire, England
Abednego Tippins Male 18 1823 Gloucestershire, England Sweep
Mary Tippins Female 7 1834 Gloucestershire, England

Year: 1821
Month: Dec
Day: 2
Parents_Surname: TIPPINS
Child_Forenames: Margaret
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Scowls
Occupation: Sweep
Officiating_Minister: S.F. Morgan
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P82 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch


Year: 1808
Month: Oct
Day: 19
Grooms_Surname: TIPPINS
Grooms_Forenames: Richard
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Newland
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: YORK
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Newland
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: John Steel
Witness_2: Thos Bond
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Tay[lo]r Matt[he]w Procter vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 129
Parish_Chapel: Newland

There is speculation that the Sweep was a sign of a travelling family ( as with Hawker, Grinder, tinker, peg maker etc) and maybe this is where your legend begins. However the family appears to live in or around the Scowles they are not travelling or having children elsewhere in England / Wales as we have seen in other families. It is possible that Richard had been in a travelling family and settled in Newland.

And of course there is a custom of Sweeps / good luck and leaping a broom at Weddings again believed to be associated with Gypsy tradition.

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Abednego TIPPINS - Deja vu

by Mac74, Tuesday, January 31, 2023, 16:17 (447 days ago) @ slowhands

Hi there
Great find thankyou so much????
Thats what i was thinking they may of settled in Forest years back in researching both me Mum and Dads side it seems that many years ago quite a few families in Cotswolds and Forest of Dean maybe a combination of a welcoming population alot of agricultural work the area being rural etc it seems many worked in the Tin mines or Forest not all Gypsies travelled not all that travelled where Gypsies i found this marriage between a Barnard and Smith with a Baldwin as witnessbut again cant say if they were originally Gypsies i think you may be right being as first record of Romany in UK was about 1549 many families could of been on road hundred or so years and still settled in 1600 1700s
Thanks so much for everyones replies on my topic so far
Really appreciated
Mac

Abednego TIPPINS - Deja vu

by Mac74, Wednesday, February 01, 2023, 08:22 (446 days ago) @ Mac74

I have this record
James Barnard Marries Matilda Smith Littledean 1857 James Father also James Inn keeper Matildas Father William Smith dealer ?

Emma Matilda BARNARD nee SMITH 1838 - 1908 -- Deja vu

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, February 01, 2023, 09:31 (446 days ago) @ Mac74

some more familiarity this one about 9 years ago

Year 1838
Month Aug
Day 12
Parents Surname SMITH
Child Forenames Emma Matilda
Fathers Forenames William
Mothers Forenames Harriet
Mothers Surname
Residence Ellwood
Occupation Cattle Dealer
Officiating Minister H. W. Sheppard Curate
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference 8811
Page Number 20
Parish Chapel Clearwell


1841
William Smith abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Harriett Smith abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Auther Smith abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
William Smith abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Smith abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Smith abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Little Dean, Gloucestershire

1851 Old Mill House, Gloster Road, Little Dean
William Smith abt 1811 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Little Dean, Gloucestershire cattle dealer
Harriet Smith abt 1813 Awre, Gloucestershire, England Wife Little Dean, Gloucestershire
William Smith abt 1837 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Smith abt 1838 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Smith abt 1839 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Smith abt 1841 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Maria Smith abt 1842 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Ellen Smith abt 1844 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Sophia Smith abt 1848 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Little Dean, Gloucestershire

1861 Butchers Arms Plump Hill
James Barnard Head Married Male 27 1834 Inn keeper East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Emma M Barnard Wife Married Female 22 1839 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Jabaz Barnard Son - Male 0 1861 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Ellen Smith Sister in law Unmarried Female 15 1846 - Gloucestershire, England

1871 The Plump
James Barnard Head - Male 37 1834 - Gloucestershire, England Iron Miner
Emma Matilda Barnard Wife - Female 32 1839 - Gloucestershire, England
Beatrice Barnard Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Gloucestershire, England
Job Barnard Son - Male 10 1861 - Gloucestershire, England
George Barnard Son - Male 8 1863 - Gloucestershire, England
Matilda Barnard Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Gloucestershire, England
Mary Ann Barnard Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Gloucestershire, England
Theophilus Barnard Son - Male 1 1870 - Gloucestershire, England

1881 Plump Hill
Emma M Barnard Head Widow Female 42 1839 Shop keeper Coleford, Gloucestershire, England
Job Barnard Son Single Male 20 1861 Gardener (7.3) East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Theofolis Barnard Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Flora E Barnard Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Naboth Barnard Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
John Barnard Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Arthur Barnard Son Single Male 3 1878 Scholar East Dean, Gloucestershire, England


1891 Flood Street, Chelsea, London
James W Townsend Head Married Male 27 1864 Butcher Peckham, Surrey, England
Beatrice Townsend Wife Married Female 31 1860 - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
James A Barnard Son - Male 1 1890 - London, Middlesex, England
Emma M Barnard Visitor Widow Female 52 1839 - Coleford, Gloucestershire, England

1901 Plump Hall Plump Hill
Emma Barnard 1839 living on own means born Newland


Name: Emma Matilda Barnard
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1908
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 214

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Ἀριστοτέλης A Gloster Boy in the Forest of Dean ><((((*>

Emma Matilda BARNARD nee SMITH 1838 - 1908 -- Deja vu

by Mac74, Thursday, February 02, 2023, 07:48 (445 days ago) @ slowhands

Mornin All
Its lookin to me like an old wives tale regards Romany connection?? Cant see anything to suggest it funny tho cos my lot were sure they were judging by the atories and the fact like stated on court and gaol records they all seemed tohave black hair brown eyes brown skin maybe it was all the time up them chimneys!
Kind regards
Mac

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