William TURNER born abt 1799 (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Friday, February 17, 2017, 01:48 (2625 days ago) @ Jefff

It's taken ages to find this household, presumably because George's given age is transcribed as 72, so missed my search limits. This seems unlikely wrt his job, and age of wife & children, I suspect the "72" was actually a "32".. ?

1871 Census; Ruardean, Herefordshire, England.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
George Turner Head M 72 Coal miner. East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Turner Wife F 22 East Dean, Gloucestershire
Samuel Turner Son M 3 East Dean, Gloucestershire
Albert W Turner Son M 1 East Dean, Gloucestershire

UPDATE !
Have viewed the Census form image and, despite the handwriting being somewhat flowery, the given age for George is definitely "72". I stand to be corrected, but I can only assume this was given in error, perhaps he was out (at work?) when the official called to take the census, and he misheard what Elizabeth told him ?. Yes men did work into their old age, but not past 70, and with a family this young.

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1861 Census; Reardean Hill, East Dean, Gloucestershire, England.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Turner Head M 60 Iron Miner. , ...
Maria Turner Wife F 51 Bristol, Gloucestershire
George Turner Son M 15 Iron Miner. East Dean, Gloucestershire
Maria Baldwin Servant F 50 Unmarried. House servant. East Dean, Gloucestershire

There was a relatively small iron ore mine at nearby Drybrook (Wigpool), but this side of the FoD was better served with coal mines which probably explains why William's job description changed with time. The link with Bristol maybe due to it's location downstream from the FoD via the River Severn, but it's probably because many miners moved from the coalfields in Bristol & North Somerset area to work in the Dean coalfield, and vice-versa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coalfields#/media/File:British.coalfields.19th.ce...

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1851 Census; East Dean, Gloucestershire, England.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Turner Head M 51 Coal Miner. East Dean, Gloucestershire
Maria Turner Wife F 42 Bristol, Gloucestershire
Jane Turner Daughter F 17 Unmarried. East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Turner Daughter F 15 East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Turner Son M 13 East Dean, Gloucestershire
Harriott Turner Daughter F 11 East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Turner Son M 7 East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Turner Son M 4 East Dean, Gloucestershire

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1841 Census; Upper Bilson, Dean Walk in Dean Forest, Little???, Gloucestershire, England.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Willam Terner M 40-44 Gloucestershire
Maria Terner F 30-34 Gloucestershire
Samuel Terner M 9 Gloucestershire
Jane Terner F 7 Gloucestershire
Elizabth Terner F 5 Gloucestershire
Willam Terner M 2 Gloucestershire

Upper Bilson is the early name for what became Lower Cinderford, 2 miles south of Ruardean Hill.

"Little???" is Littledean, an ancient village just east of Cinderford, but 240 metres below it, at the bottom of a steep hill & on the same level as the fertile Severn vale. Historically Littledean was the nearest village to the eastern side of the upper/inner Forest area, so more attractive to settlers for agriculture etc, hence was referred to on the Census as the place of local government. During the C19th & the arrival of industrial revolution into the upper/inner Forest, Cinderford grew from a few hamlets to a new town & overtook Littledean in size & local importance.

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This is the only possible Marriage Record for Wm & Maria I can find in this site's PRs, but is it the correct one, maybe should be Bristol area ?;

Record_ID: 31434
Entry_Number: 54
Year: 1826
Month: Nov
Day: 25
Grooms_Surname: TURNER
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age: [not
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation: [not stated]
Grooms_Residence: the Parish of Ruerdean [Ruardean]
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Surname: LEEDHAM
Brides_Forenames: Maria
Brides_Age: [not
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: the Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: John Brain
Witness_2: Ann Brain
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Berkin A M Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 18
Parish_Chapel: Hope Mansell
Soundex_Groom: T656
Soundex_Bride: L350

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1871 Census; East Dean, Gloucestershire, England.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Amos Williams Head M 32 Collier. East Dean, Gloucestershire
Harriett Williams Wife F 30 East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Williams Son M 9 Scholar. East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Williams Daughter F 7 East Dean, Gloucestershire
Clara Williams Daughter F 4 East Dean, Gloucestershire
Samuel Williams Son M 2 East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Bosley Nephew M 13 Collier. East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Turner Father-in-law M 75 Collier. East Dean, Gloucestershire
Maria Turner Mother-in-law F 62 East Dean, Gloucestershire
Edward Beard Lodger M 26 Married. Collier. May Hill, Gloucestershire
Eliza Beard Lodger F 20 Married. May Hill, Gloucestershire
Edwin Beard Lodger M 0 May Hill, Gloucestershire

This is a very helpful household for piecing-together extended family.
Clearly Harriett Williams is Wm's daughter Harriet nee Turner, looks like she married and left their household c1858.

Oddly, altho I can find her Baptism in this site's PRs, cannot find her Marriage.
This may be it, from FreeBMD, altho only part of the record is available, so ?? ...

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1854 (>99%)
Williams Amos Monmouth 11a 69