James Cowles/Coles MORGAN & Mary PROSSER (General)

by susanc123, Friday, September 26, 2008, 09:33 (5908 days ago) @ rheola

I'm having a bad day--this message somehow completely vanished when I hit "preview"! Then when I recreated it, it totally evaporated when I hit “ok-submit”. I can't find it in the forums anywhere so I'm posting it yet again. I’m sorry if it turns up multiple times!

I forgot that Mary PROSSER didn't marry John Cowles/Coles MORGAN until 1816, so she wasn't a MORGAN until 1816 and therefore she didn't marry your HOWE in 1808. I should have realized that much, much sooner! More proof of a bad day...

I think my Margaret MORGAN ties into the following PROSSER-MORGAN family of Garway, but I won't list all my reasons right now. Margaret's parents on her Skenfrith bap. record are James and Mary MORGAN. Could this be the right couple?

1. James Cowles/Coles MORGAN (c. 23 Oct 1791-<Skenfrith, Monmouth, Wales>; d. Apr 1827-<Garway, Herefordshire, England>)
sp: Mary PROSSER (c. 20 Jun 1790-Garway, Herefordshire, England; m. 25 Mar 1816-Garway, Herefordshire, England)

2. Margaret Morgan (b. 20 Apr 1816-Skenfrith, Monmouthshire, Wales; d. 11 Dec 1867-San Francisco, San Francisco, CA)
sp: Theodore Curtis (m.17 Jan 1846-Nauvoo, Hancock, IL)
3. Theodore Walter Curtis (b. 29 Jan 1848-St. Louis, St. Louis, MO; d. 1 May 1930-Boston, Suffolk, MA)
3. Margaret Curtis (b. 17 Dec 1849-St. Louis, St. Louis, MO; d.13 Mar 1926-Brooklyn, Kings, NY)

2. Walter Prosser Morgan (c.13 May 1818-Garway, Herefordshire, England; d.1898-<Garway, Herefordshire, England>)
sp: Elizabeth Hulin (b. abt. 1829-Awre, Gloucestershire, England; m. 19 Apr 1860-Blakeney, Gloucestershire, England; d.1907-<Garway, Herefordshire, England>)
3. Walter Morgan (c. 25 Nov 1862-Garway, Herefordshire, England; d. April 8th 1919-<Garway, Herefordshire, England>)
3. Mary Morgan (c. 1 Dec 1863-Garway, Herefordshire, England; d.1900-<Garway, Herefordshire, England>)
sp: John Baker
3. Catherine Morgan (c. 29 Mar 1865-Garway, Herefordshire, England)
3. Anne Morgan (c. 10 Mar 1867-Garway, Herefordshire, England)
3. Elizabeth Morgan (c. 25 Apr 1869-Garway, Herefordshire, England)
3. Margaret Morgan (c. 6 Dec 1869-Garway, Herefordshire, England)

2. James George Morgan (b. 22 Jul 1820-Garway, Herefordshire, England; d.15 Nov 1844-Nauvoo, Hancock, IL)
sp: Emily

2. Anne Morgan (c. 5 Dec 1822-Garway, Herefordshire, England; d. 10 Sep 1842-Nauvoo, Hancock, IL) I'm not sure this is the exact same Ann Morgan who died in Nauvoo, but their ages are extremely close and both girls were born in England.

My theory is that James Cowles MORGAN, c. 23 Oct 1791, Skenfrith, son of James Morgan, is the son of James MORGAN and Margaret AUSTIN. James' and Margaret's Skenfrith marriage license dated June 24 1787, shows that James MORGAN was of Garway, Hef. & Margaret AUSTIN was of Skenfrith.

Here's confirming lineage info from Bradney, Joseph Alfred, Sir: "A history of Monmouthshire from the coming of the Normans into Wales down to the present time, Vol. 1, Part 1, p. 81"

Vol. 1, Part 1
To access p. 81, click on Grosmont in the column to the left of the main screen.

My next theory is that the elder James MORGAN might possibly be alive in Skenfrith in 1841 for the census. I have a journal entry from James Palmer that I believe refers to my Margaret Morgan. She seems to be the Margaret Morgan enumerated in the 1841 Pitthouse Dymock, Hef census with the Joseph Hill family. James Palmer was born in Dymock, Hef. He and Margaret attended the same church, and both later moved to Nauvoo, IL. (James George MORGAN also worked in Dymock and later moved to Nauvoo, IL.)

Wed. 9 Dec 1840 - "Next day I visited Monmouth and Skenfrith where the grandsires of the Morgan family resided. In company with Miss Margaret Morgan was kindly received and treated with respect." (Journal of James Palmer)

So, since Margaret's "grandsires" were alive in Dec of 1840, is it possible that they were alive for the census in 1841? This would be extraordinary since many Morgans seem to die young. Margaret died age 51 of angina pectoralis. Of course, James Palmer might be referring to Austins, Prossers, or Merediths instead?

I'm not sure if your Garway PROSSER-MORGANs tie to these Garway PROSSER-MORGANS, but just in case, I thought I'd share this slightly-disjointed info with you!
Transcribed Skenfrith registers are online at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/skenfrithprt.htm

Unfortunately, there seems to be an unusually large amount of Thos. Morgans in them.

This is such a great site! I just found Walter Prosser Morgan’s marriage to Elizabeth Hulin here. It lists James Morgan’s middle name as Coles.
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=page&id=2

James’ middle name is also listed as Coles in the Skenfrith transcription below (#217):
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/skenfrith/baps/skenbap033...

On the following Monumental Inscriptions at Garway, and on the baptism register, his middle name is listed as Cowles (#553)…I don’t quite know what to make of these differences…
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukhfhs/mimi.html
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/skth-bap-541-600.jpg

Susan