George MORGAN 1824 (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Wednesday, October 05, 2011, 23:33 (4801 days ago) @ slowhands

Hi Bethan,
Re the birth record for George abt 1826, using the Advanced Search thro this site's PRs gives following Baptisms for children of Henry & Elizabeth Morgan:

8986 1826 MORGAN Henry, Henry & Eliz[abe]th, Forest, Coalminer, Coleford
9063 1828 MORGAN Hannah, Henry & Elizabeth, Forest, Coalminer, Coleford
9191 1832 MORGAN Maria, Henry & Elizabeth, Forest of Dean, Coalminer, Coleford
9310 1835 MORGAN George, Henry & Elizabeth, Forest of Dean, Coal Miner, Coleford
9311 1835 MORGAN Elizabeth, Henry & Elizabeth, Forest of Dean, Coal Miner, Coleford

So they match Slowhands' Census Records above except that George appears to have got younger ?

But his full BR shows he's actually born 1824.

Record ID 9310
Entry Number 1155
Year 1835
Month Apl
Day 17
Parents Surname MORGAN
Child Forenames George
Fathers Forenames Henry
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth
Mothers Surname
Residence Forest of Dean
Occupation Coal Miner
Officiating Minister George Roberts BA Perpet: Curate
Event Baptism
Memoranda born in 1824
Notes
Register Reference P93 IN 1/5
Page Number 6
Parish Chapel Coleford

George was Baptised at the same time as Elizabeth:

Record ID 9311
Entry Number 1156
Year 1835
Month Apl
Day 17
Parents Surname MORGAN
Child Forenames Elizabeth
Fathers Forenames Henry
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth
Mothers Surname
Residence Forest of Dean
Occupation Coal Miner
Officiating Minister George Roberts BA Perpet: Curate
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P93 IN 1/5
Page Number 7
Parish Chapel Coleford

T'others were all Baptised during their birth year as per the Census Records.

I was struggling to find a logical Marriage for Henry & Elizabeth, but then it clicked as to why George wasn't Baptised at birth;

This is the only likely Marriage on the database, but look at the date:

Record_ID: 27953
Entry_Number: 75
Year: 1828
Month: Aug.
Day: 11
Grooms_Surname: MORGAN
Grooms_Forenames: Henry
Grooms_Age: [not stated]
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: [not stated]
Grooms_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Surname: HAWKINS
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age: [not
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [not stated]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: He marks She signs
Witness_1: Mark of Harriet Young[?]
Witness_2: Tho[ma]s. Underwood Clark[sic]
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Yate Fosbroke Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P175 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Hewelsfield
Soundex_Groom: M625
Soundex_Bride: H252

Also note conspicuous lack of groom & bride's family....and their use of a different Chapel than all their subsequent Baptisms.

Clearly, George was very soon to have a sister and they wanted to do the "decent" thing:

Record_ID: 9063
Entry_Number: 908
Year: 1828
Month: Oct
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: MORGAN
Child_Forenames: Hannah
Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Forest
Occupation: Coalminer
Officiating_Minister: Henry Poole Minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 78
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
Soundex: M625

Searching for Baptisms for parent's Henry & Elizabeth is tricky without their parent's names to help.
There are two possible Henry Morgans baptised in 1802 in Newland/English Bicknor, and five Elizabeth Hawkins' baptised between 1796-98 in Newland/Coleford !