Richard George & Kathleen ROBERTS, continued. (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Saturday, October 27, 2012, 02:06 (4417 days ago) @ Jefff

UPDATE to the above post now FreeBMD is back online, I find:

Surname Given Name Mother District Volume Page Transcriber
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Births Jun 1914
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ROBERTS Kathleen F. Cann Westbury S. 6a 500 Jacqui

(So Kathleen's mother was indeed a Cann, as per the Paddington Marriage Record found above).

No Burial for Kathleen on FreeBMD but most recent entry is 1962 so not surprising.
Ancestry Free Search pages show a Death in 1995 for a Freda Kathleen Roberts in Glos ?? Can also see Kathleen to be a popular Roberts name in C20th Glos.

Also from FreeBMD I find these possible siblings (Robin, after 1911 the Birth Registers recorded mother's maiden names, so easier to search). http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
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Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
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Roberts Phyllis M Cann Westbury S. 6a 513
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From GlosBMD:
Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
RAWLINGS Austin Alfred ROBERTS Phyllis Margaret Forest of Dean Drybrook Holy Trinity 1935 7 52
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx

Record_ID: 104266
Entry_Number: 52
Year: 1935
Month: Feb
Day: 9
Grooms_Surname: RAWLINGS
Grooms_Forenames: Austin Alfred
Grooms_Age: 24
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Morse Road Drybrook
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Rawlings
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Seymour
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: ROBERTS
Brides_Forenames: Phyllis Margaret
Brides_Age: 23
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: High Street Drybrook
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Roberts
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Richard George
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Richard George Roberts
Witness_2: George Ivor John Brain
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: George R Newman Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN1/22
Page_Number: 26
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex_Groom: R452
Soundex_Bride: R163

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Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
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Roberts Verdun Cann Westbury S. 6a 482

Deaths Sep 1916 (>99%)
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Roberts Verdun 0 Westbury S. 6a 277

Record_ID: 249045
Entry_Number: 553
Year: 1916
Month: Sep
Day: 16
Surname: ROBERTS
Forenames: Verdun
Residence: Drybrook
Age_at_death: 2 months
Officiating_Minister: James Lawton Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/14
Page_No: 70
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: R163

I cannot find an Inquest for Verdun, but infant deaths were far from uncommon then.

Here's a Prior thread wrt Verdun and father Richard George Roberts.
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=24305

The Battle of Verdun thro 1916 didn't generally involve British troops, but the sheer horror of the huge casualties sustained by Britain's French allies meant a lot of British children b1916 were named Verdun in memoriam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Verdun

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I've also only just found this Prior Thread wrt Emily Cann hence Richard George Roberts. I'm pleased to see my earlier posts have been generally correlated, but far more importantly we know more about Richard's mother Maria.

I'm also pleased to discover why I coudn't find them on the 1901 Census; presumably for reasons associated with their brief London "adventure", Richard & Emily soon returned to Drybrook with a very young Richard George Junior, but were now known as Cinderby if only, presumably, on the Census forms rather than the local community.
Well spotted & thanks for clarifying, Slowhands & Co !

(Robin, you may recall Sarah Cinderby was mentioned by MPG at top of your thread).

See Prior Thread http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=23927

Robin, may I recommend you study the website of David Watkins aka "Admin" linked within the above Prior Thread.
http://david.watkins.org.au/cgi-bin/perlged.cgi?method=get&action=display&selec...

It appears Robin that you are distantly related to the founder of this great website who sadly passed away this year.
Please see the post pinned to the top of the Forum Index, David was clearly a great man who we all owe so very much to, thankyou Dave.