Charles & Elizabeth Williams of Llandogo b1780s (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Monday, July 01, 2013, 15:18 (4164 days ago) @ KathrynBarnard

Hi Kathryn, welcome to the forum !

First, please edit your post as it's not a good idea to include your full email address, unfortunately this may attract unwanted spam emails etc. See
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=9711
If other posters wish to contact you off the forum they can send you secure emails by clicking your "envelope" icon. At the least swop the @ for "at" or similar, I'm told this fools the automated systems that sweep the net for email addresses but I must say I'm not convinced this still works ?

Moving on, have you searched this site's Parish Record database for Charles & ELizabeth, I'm afraid I'm not sure from your post whether your given "b" dates are derived from the later Censuses(you don't mention them), or are they from PRs you've already found ?. This database does include Llandogo PRs, but not Trellech.
I have searched this forum for prior posts but cannot find any that are obviously related, although hopefully I'm wrong (again) in this respect and they are here....

From this site's LLandogo PRs there are several Williams, unsurprisingly, including the following which I suspect you've seen. However if I were able to search Trellech PRs I suspect they'd also include these fairly common names, so not sure how conclusive this is ??

Record_ID: 215524
Entry_Number:
Year: 1786
Month: Jun
Day: 11
Parents_Surname: WILLIAMS
Child_Forenames: Charles
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Frances
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Llandogo Monmouth
Soundex: W452

Record_ID: 215541
Entry_Number:
Year: 1787
Month: Oct
Day: 7
Parents_Surname: WILLIAMS
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Llandogo Monmouth
Soundex: W452

However note there are other Elizabeths baptised at Llandogo within a few years of your suspected date, so ?. The Llandogo PRs don't include any likely Marriage between them.

Please confirm if these PRs are what you've already found, thanks.

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I can only search Censuses using the LDS site which gives individuals not households. Is this your Charles do you know, this one is born 1786/7 ?

"England and Wales Census, 1841"
Name: Charles Williams
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Gender: Male
Age: 55
Birthplace: Monmouthshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Monmouth
Sub-District: Trelleck
Parish: Llandogo
County: Monmouthshire

"England and Wales Census, 1861"
Name: Charles Williams
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Male
Age: 74
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Monmouth Llandogo
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Monmouth
Sub-District: 4 Trelleck
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Parish: Llandogo
Residence County: Monmouthshire

Also from LDS there is this possible Trellech Baptism, I'm sure other forum users will have access to more ?

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Charles Williams
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 27 Apr 1788
Christening Place: TRELECK,MONMOUTH,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Williams
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02269-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 104918
Reference ID:

I cannot be certain but this may be Charles' wife Elizabeth in the 1861 Census, altho I suspect from your post you've already found them ?

"England and Wales Census, 1861"
Name: Elizabeth Williams
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Female
Age: 74
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Birthplace: Monmouth Llandogo
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Monmouth
Sub-District: 4 Trelleck
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Parish: Llandogo
Residence County: Monmouthshire

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Ach...

As expected the excellent Genuki site yields some interesting background and history for the very old Parishes of Trellech and nearby Llandogo which I knew very little about until today, thanks for helping enlighten me Kathryn.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Llandogo/
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Trelleck/