Mr Marfell, carpenter => Basil Marfell, WF Giles, builders ? (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Saturday, February 23, 2019, 03:11 (2100 days ago) @ Jefff

I wonder if Mr Marfell of the Town hall is an ancestor of Basil Marfell, who spent many years working for Cinderford building firm WF Giles, who built the whole Ranks factory at Mitcheldean, and were still used on smaller building projects when I was there in the early 80s and met Basil who I think was manager of the firm by then ?.

He's on this pic of a Giles' outing in abt 1948
https://www.sungreen.co.uk/Cinderford-Glos/giles_blackpool_outing.html

And helped write this detailed description of their work at Ranks.
https://memoriesofrxmp.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/W-F-Giles-Rank-Xerox.pdf

This prior thread details the W.F.Giles family
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=379

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Basil was born into the building & decorating business, and in Mitcheldean, so he could indeed be related to John Morton Marfell.

Record_ID: 322911
Entry_Number: 435
Year: 1918
Month: Sep
Day: 17
Parents_Surname: MARFELL
Child_Forenames: Basil Winston
Fathers_Forenames: Aaron George
Mothers_Forenames: Annie Louisa
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Drybrook Godparents S. Shapcott Emily Pember
Occupation: Decorator
Officiating_Minister: Curt Becher
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Aug 25 1918
Notes:
Register_Reference: P220 IN 1/14
Page_Number: 55
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean
Soundex: M614

And married the daughter of W.F.Giles himself;

Record_ID: 35737
Entry_Number: 238
Year: 1942
Month: Apr
Day: 6
Grooms_Surname: MARFELL
Grooms_Forenames: Basil Winston
Grooms_Age: 23
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: L A C R[oyal] A[ir] F[orce]
Grooms_Residence: Drybrook
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Marfell
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Aaran George Miles
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Retired
Brides_Surname: GILES
Brides_Forenames: Dorothy May
Brides_Age: 19
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: Hairdresser
Brides_Residence: 9 St Annals Road Cinderford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Giles
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Wilfred Frank Eugene
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Builder & Contractor
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Alfred F E Giles
Witness_2: Aaran G M Marfell
Other_Witnesses: Victor P Marfell
Officiating_Minister: Frank N Wilkes Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/2 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 119
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen
Soundex_Groom: M614
Soundex_Bride: G420

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Basil's parents;

Record_ID: 121324
Entry_Number: 326
Year: 1911
Month: Aug
Day: 5
Grooms_Surname: MARFELL
Grooms_Forenames: Aaron George
Grooms_Age: 36
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Decorator
Grooms_Residence: Drybrook
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: MARFELL
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Builder
Brides_Surname: MARSHALL
Brides_Forenames: Annie Louise
Brides_Age: 31
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Lydbrook
Brides_Fathers_Surname: MARSHALL
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Henry
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both sign
Witness_1: William Marfell
Witness_2: Elizabeth Maud Mann
Other_Witnesses: Henry Marshall
Officiating_Minister: F W Bidwell
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P208 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 163
Parish_Chapel: Lydbrook
Soundex_Groom: M614
Soundex_Bride: M624

Record_ID: 166454
Entry_Number: 673
Year: 1875
Month: Jan
Day: 9
Parents_Surname: MARFELL
Child_Forenames: Aaron George Miles
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Tryphena
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Ruardean Gloucester[shire]
Occupation: Plumber & Glazier
Officiating_Minister: John Kerneys
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [Baptised at] Parents House
Notes: Page Number not stated but is after page 108 in Entry Number order
Register_Reference: D2598 5/4
Page_Number: 0
Parish_Chapel: Forest of Dean Bible Christian
Soundex: M614

1881 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Marfell Head M 45 House Painter.East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Tryphena Marfell Wife F 36 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England
Timothy Marfell Son M 18 House Painter. Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Marfell Daughter F 16 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England
Annie Marfell Daughter F 11 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England
John Marfell Son M 10 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England
Aaron Marfell Son M 7 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England
William Marfell Son M 2 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Marfell Daughter F 0 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1859
Marfell John Pontypool 11a 163
Wadley Tryphena Pontypool 11a 163

Struggling to find them in earlier Census' - to find John's own parents.

Record_ID: 94926
Entry_Number: 197
Year: 1911
Month: Mar
Day: 11
Surname: MARFELL
Forenames: Tryphena
Residence: Drybrook
Age_at_death: 67 years
Officiating_Minister: James Lawton Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/14
Page_No: 25
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: M614

Record_ID: 93565
Entry_Number: 424
Year: 1891
Month: Aug
Day: 6
Surname: MARFELL
Forenames: John
Residence: Drybrook
Age_at_death: 58
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/13
Page_No: 53
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: M614

So born abt 1833, this seems likely;

Name Aaron Marfell
Spouse's Name Sarah Constance
Event Date 04 Mar 1832
Event Place St. Mary-De-Lode'S Church, Gloucester, Gloucester, England

Record_ID: 321328
Entry_Number: 454
Year: 1832
Month: Sep
Day: 9
Parents_Surname: MARFELL
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: Aaron
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Dishes Brook Forest of Dean
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: George Cox Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 220 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 57
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean
Soundex: M614

So Basil Marfell's descended from John Marfell born 1832 in Mitcheldean area, but NOT the possible Town Hall carpenter John Morton Marfell who was also born abt then, and in same area !?