Abednego TIPPINS - Deja vu (Urgent)

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Tuesday, January 31, 2023, 09:05 (444 days ago) @ Mac74

Well almost 10 years ago I did some research here, on Shadrach TIPPINS 1851 son of Abednego 1825
The biblical trio of names Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, would no doubt have been familiar to the enumerator, the spelling may have been a challenge ! and also may pose challenges to the modern transcriber.
A point here it was not uncommon for Traveller families to use “unusual” first names for their children – Shadrach, Neptune, Wisdom, Cinderella,Freedom for example

First name(s) Shadrack Country England
Last name Tippins
Father's first name(s) Abednego Gender Male
Father's last name Tippins
Birth year -
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Birth place -
Mother's last name -
Baptism year 1851
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Baptism date 09 Feb 1851
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place Newland


1851 Scowles
Bendigs Tippins Head Married Male 26 1825 Miner Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Ann Tippins Wife Married Female 26 1825 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Ann Maria Tippins Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1848 Scholar Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Tippins Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England
Shadrach Tippins Son - Male 0 1851 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England

Living /enumerated next to Richard (75) and Sarah Tippins Richard is described as a Pauper / Chimney Sweep

Year: 1856
Month: Mar
Day: 5
Surname: TIPPINS
Forenames: Richard
Residence: Scowles
Age_at_death: 84
Officiating_Minister: John Hawksley Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/27
Page_No: 85
Parish_Chapel: Newland


1841 Scowles
Richard Tippins Male 60 1781 Gloucestershire, England Sweep
Hannah Tippins Female 65 1776 Gloucestershire, England
Hannah Tippins Female 25 1816 Gloucestershire, England
Margaret Tippins Female 20 1821 Gloucestershire, England
Abednego Tippins Male 18 1823 Gloucestershire, England Sweep
Mary Tippins Female 7 1834 Gloucestershire, England

Year: 1821
Month: Dec
Day: 2
Parents_Surname: TIPPINS
Child_Forenames: Margaret
Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Scowls
Occupation: Sweep
Officiating_Minister: S.F. Morgan
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P82 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch


Year: 1808
Month: Oct
Day: 19
Grooms_Surname: TIPPINS
Grooms_Forenames: Richard
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Newland
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: YORK
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Newland
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: John Steel
Witness_2: Thos Bond
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Tay[lo]r Matt[he]w Procter vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 129
Parish_Chapel: Newland

There is speculation that the Sweep was a sign of a travelling family ( as with Hawker, Grinder, tinker, peg maker etc) and maybe this is where your legend begins. However the family appears to live in or around the Scowles they are not travelling or having children elsewhere in England / Wales as we have seen in other families. It is possible that Richard had been in a travelling family and settled in Newland.

And of course there is a custom of Sweeps / good luck and leaping a broom at Weddings again believed to be associated with Gypsy tradition.

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