Strip & At It Colliery (General)
by Dorothy, Wednesday, April 04, 2007, 09:59 (6445 days ago)
Does anyone know the location of this Colliery? My Colwell family lived there in 1850s and I assume the houses appearing on the census were owned by the Colliery. Was there any settlement independent of the colliery? Thanks.
Strip & At It Colliery
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, April 04, 2007, 10:05 (6445 days ago) @ Dorothy
in the area of Serridge Green / South of the Swan Inn, Brierly, towards the Trafalgar Pit
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
Approx Map ref
362365, 214580
Strip & At It Colliery
by Dorothy, Thursday, April 05, 2007, 04:05 (6444 days ago) @ slowhands
Thank you Slowhands. Do you happen to know of a map that shows the main Collieries on the net?
Forest of Dean Coal Mining pages
by admin , Forest of Dean, Thursday, April 05, 2007, 04:17 (6444 days ago) @ Dorothy
If you go to the following Web page you will find a map and details of the various gales making up the Forest of Dean coalfield.
Forest of Dean Coal Mining pages
by Dorothy, Saturday, April 07, 2007, 00:26 (6442 days ago) @ admin
Thank you for the website of collieries. Now an extra question (the last) Does anyone know anything about the jobs of those who called themselves engineers/engine tenders and seemed not to have been colliers but rather ran the pump houses. Most of my ancestors were listed thus, and I'm trying to find out what their lives were like, and whether the job was passed from father to son. Thank you.
Coal Mining
by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, April 07, 2007, 00:39 (6442 days ago) @ Dorothy
Just that they tended the steam engines that pumped water out, air in ? and I suspect provided the power to lower/raise the cage for the deep mines.....
other occupations you will see include Banksman, Brakeman, Winder, Roadman. Platelayer, Ripper, Hewer, Driller, Borer, Collier (!), Assistant , Buttie....
Strip & At It Colliery
by bethanmgriffith , Tuesday, February 11, 2014, 19:40 (3939 days ago) @ Dorothy
Hi, I've heard stories that my grandfather was a colliery proprietor of strip and at it mine. Is there any way of proving this? His name was George Morgan and he had a son George Albert Morgan. In the 1901 census it states he lives in broadwell lane end and is a colliery proprietor. If anyone has any information I would be grateful. I was thinking about visiting the Forest of Dean to find out more information, does anyone know where I would start?
Thank you. }
Strip & At It Colliery
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, February 11, 2014, 20:44 (3939 days ago) @ bethanmgriffith
Hi Bethan
The best site for detailed histories of the FoD pits is the Lightmoor site, as referenced in an earlier post in this thread, I think it's been compiled from mentions in newspapers and other local records. Sadly however not too much info for Strip and At It, but it does state:
"24 August 1923 Application for re-grant John William Morgan of Broadwell Lane End. Strip and at it No.2."
http://www.lightmoor.co.uk/forestcoal/CoalStrip.html
I appreciate Morgan is not a rare Forest name, but is John a descendant of your George ?
The above site cross-references the Trafalgar Colliery page, within which is "On 4th November 1919 the transfer of the Trafalgar Colliery Co. Ltd. by Sir Francis Brain to Henry Crawshay & Co. Ltd. (represented by Edwin William Morgan) and the Foxes Bridge Colliery Co. Ltd. (represented by Arthur John Morgan) was completed." Are these Morgans in your tree ?
http://www.lightmoor.co.uk/forestcoal/CoalTrafalgar.html
More history of Strip and At It (and Trafalgar) in this excellent site, but no mention of Morgans tho. ??
http://way-mark.co.uk/foresthaven/historic/stripit1.htm
This 1896 list of local pits includes a mention of "G. Morgan and Sons, Foundry Colliery, Speech House Road"; could this be your George's colliery ?.
http://www.pdmhs.com/1896%20Lists/1896-66.htm
Ref the Mining Links page on this site http://www.forest-of-dean.net/index.php/links/26-mining
Back to the Lightmoor site's very detailed history of Foundry pit, with many references to your Morgans, including:
"F3 609
November 1893 To be granted to George Morgan, Broadwell Lane End.
15 December 1893 Granted.
17 December 1894 George Morgan, John W. Morgan and George A. Morgan in driving a level for the Foundry Colliery trespassed into New Road Level gale. New Road Level to the deep of Foundry and in June last a level being driven by Messrs. Morgan struck the coal some 40 yards below the deep boundary of their gale. Have now driven another level with virtually the same result. ‘They are poor men’.
1894 Output 158 tons (Morgan & Sons)
13 March 1899 Accumulated arrears of rent but insufficient plant to distrain. Morgan stated that he was going through bad coal. Three or four levels, machine house, office and loading bank on Severn & Wye tramroad.
1 March 1900 Morgan granted a lease for 35 years to a Mr. William Morris of Newport.
30 November 1900 Dean Forest Guardian Accident reported. Tram broke away on incline to a loading wharf on the Coleford - Speech House road. Two small boys injured.
BT31 10972/83366
COLEFORD RED ASH
Application by subscribers of Forest [struck through] Coleford Red Ash. Not to issue invitations to the public to subscribe.
Subscribers:
George Albert Morgan Forest Red Ash Colliery Colliery Proprietor
John William Morgan Forest Red Ash Colliery Colliery Proprietor
Edward Little Stroud Solicitor
R. T. Ward Stroud Coal Merchant
H. Theo Humpidge Amberley, Stroud Engineer
William Selwyn Stroud Flock manufacturer
John Rowell Stroud Solicitor
Incorporated 23 January 1905 Capital £1000 in 1000 £1 shares
To acquire by purchase as a going concern the business now carried on under name of George morgan & Sons at the Forest Red Ash Colliery near Coleford with all fixed and moveable plant, machinery and horses, wagons, trams, book debts and all other assests.
Agreement between George Albert Morgan and John William Morgan and the Coleford red Ash Colliery Co.
Registered office 2, Rowcroft Stroud John Rowell.
Vendors will sell gale - granted 15 December 1893. Vendors and late father George Morgan traded as Forest Red Ash Colliery Co. or George Morgan & Sons.
Consideration for sal'e £212 2s. 11d.
For the property £100 - loose plant, machinery, horses etc.
Remaining property £112 2s. 11d.
To be paid in shares
Sal'e to be completed by 6 February.
Creditors owed £287 17s. 6d.
23 July 1909 Dean Forest Guardian Sal'e by auction of seam of coal, Whittington, 46 acres, 146,000 tons, 2' 4" thick. the level is equipped. Stalls are set off and the coal may at once be worked. A self-acting incline works the tubs direct to a railway siding. Foundry Colliery No.1 at present let to Messrs. Alfred and James Parry on a yearly tenancy at a royalty of 9d. per ton. The colliery can be worked at very little expense as there is no machinery.
Sal-e due to shareholders dispute.
No bid made at sal-e.
23 December 1909 John Rowell appointed receiver"
Thanks to http://www.lightmoor.co.uk/forestcoal/CoalFoundry.html
(Apologies for mispelling "sal-e" to allow inclusion within this site).
The Foundry (Level) pit was located at Cannop, the Broadwell side of Speech House. Strip & At It is next to Trafalgar, near Cinderford. I suspect your family's history has become confused over the years, "your" Geo Morgans were at Foundry with a possible descendant at Strip and At It ?. Again c/o the Lightmoor site, this superb 1894 map shows these coal mine locations as black spots (brown being iron mines).
http://www.lightmoor.co.uk/forestcoal/EastDean.html
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We've had several mining queries similar to yours, these prior threads should help you. If you've visiting the area then the Heritage Museum & Library is a must-visit, I recommend you write to them in the first instance, I gather they're very helpful with such enquiries. You've probably already searched the excellent Freeminer's Register in this website's database, from which:
Record_Number: 1947
Forename: George Albert
Surname: MORGAN
Calculated Year of Birth: 1861
Age: 21
Day: 4
Month: Jan
Year: 1882
Residence: Broadwell Lane End
Remarks: Certificate of Birth produced
Memorandum:
Soundex: M625
Record_Number: 3152
Forename: George William
Surname: MORGAN
Calculated Year of Birth: 1883
Age: 21
Day: 28
Month: Nov
Year: 1904
Residence: Broadwell Lane End
Remarks: Two Witnesses
Memorandum:
Soundex: M625
Prior "mining" threads
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=42431
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=42191
And "suggested tourism" threads
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=33227
Enjoy your visit & happy hunting !
MORGANs at Foundry Pit, Cannop => Robin M at Hopewell ?
by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 16:57 (3938 days ago) @ Jefff
Hi again Bethan,
it seems like i've been telling you what you already know, sorry for that.
Shame my memory's not too good these days !
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=33948
Memo to self: always search forum for prior posts !
(trouble is when I do search I don't find any, so I occasionally don't look...and...)
George Albert Morgan also gets mentioned in this prior thread re Broadwell area colliery owners.
http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=42663
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I always recommend general internet searches of names, I've found some interest things for my tree in this way.
eg searching say "Morgan colliery Dean" and suchlike produces several hits, often within the excellent Lightmoor site or maybe the old Trade Directories. The less words searched the better, as long as they're "key" words.
Doing this today has produced, not surprisingly and apologies for not mentioning him, lifelong miner now freeminer Robin Morgan who is still working the Hopewell Colliery near Cannop crossroads. He comes from a line of miners, perhaps related to you Bethan ?, altho I think he's from the Cinderford area so maybe not, but worth asking. I don't know if he is still taking visitors down his mine, but I recommend contacting him if you can, especially if you're visiting the Dean. I believe these contact details are still correct
Robin Morgan, Hopewell Colliery Museum, Cannop Hill, Speech House Road, Coleford, Gloucestershire, Tel: 01594-810706, outside opening hours 01594-832216.
As you can see Hopewell is in the same vicinity as Foundry Level, coincidence or ??
Here's just a few of the many web hits for Robin, including a nice film clip (he's been on tv a few times) and a separate sound talk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFE5WiMW7PA
http://www.countryfile.com/countryside/my-country-life-free-miner
http://wwwtourandexplore.blogspot.co.uk/2010/06/coal-mining-in-forest-of-dean_24.html
http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/forum/read.php?4,37065
http://87.248.112.8/search/srpcache?ei=UTF-8&p=morgan+colliery+dean&type=61465&...
http://www.brh.org.uk/site/events/a-picnic-in-the-forest/
This last link includes a very interesting 31 minute sound recording by Robin.
UPDATE Oct 2017: Sad to belatedly report that Robin Morgan passed-away in 2016,aged 80, he was working his mine the day before. His Hopewell Colliery is still being worked by his fellow freeminer Rich Daniels.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jan/29/one-of-a-kind-tributes-to-uks-oldest-wo...
http://www.hopewellcolliery.com/
MORGANs at Foundry Pit, Cannop => Robin M at Hopewell ?
by bethanmgriffith , Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 19:27 (3938 days ago) @ Jefff
Wow Jeff, thank you so much. You have been a great help and I truly appreciate you taking the time to help me. It's so kind of you. I will definitely check these things out and get in touch with Robin this weekend to see if there is a link. I had the basics but as you point out things can change slightly as information gets passed down the line. I just thought there must be more information on miners and possibly photographs out there but I couldn't find Anyang concrete. Hopefully Robin will be able to help me further.
Once again I thank you for all that you have found and shared with me.
A very grateful,
Bethan.