Edward Morgan/Elizabeth Waite (Betsy) Family (General)

by 10noyrum @, Saturday, January 12, 2008, 05:51 (6163 days ago) @ wamorgan

Hi Wendy,

Good luck with the wedding! In contrast to yourself I am retired and have just watched Newport Gwent Dragons defeated at Rugby Union on the TV: a sad day. At the same time I have been typing away reviewing the evidence so far.

I have the following data from the 1851 census transcription by the Gloucestershire Family History Society:

1959 1851 CENSUS HO107/1959 FF.0294-0306 ED.4F NEWNHAM 1

Piece: 1959 Folio: 0299 Schedule: 018

Address: Dockham

MORGAN EDWARD HD M 36 Coal Miner GLS West Dean (c1815)
MORGAN ANN WI M 47 GLS Littledean (c1804)

This indicates a marriage before 1851 and is consistent with the marriage certificate of my ancestor HENRY MORGAN to HANNAH HAYNES on 2nd of January 1947. The two witnesses to the marriage are EDWARD and ANN MORGAN.

My EDWARD MORGAN was baptised on 11th February 1816 and this is entirely consistent with the year of birth of c1815 calculated from his age given in the 1851 census. It is also consistent with the birth year calculated for EDWARD MORGAN married to ELIZABETH in the 1861 census.

The fact that EDWARD MORGAN is living in Dockham at the time of the 1851 census provides the link to the unmarried EDWARD MORGAN also living in Dockham with his mother and grandmother at the time of the 1841 census in the citation:

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 364; Book: 9;
Civil Parish: Dean Forest; County: Gloucestershire;
Enumeration District: 13; Folio: 15; Page: 24; Line: 6;
GSU roll: 288776.

Your evidence that EDWARD MORGAN was a widower when he married ELIZABETH WAITE explains why I have not been able to find EDWARD and ANNE MORGAN living together in the censuses after 1851. Cearly, ANN had died between 1851 and 1857. I had been labouring under the assumption that EDWARD and ANN had moved from the FOD and that is why I could not find them. Instead, poor ANN had passed away. RIP.

Now, the excellent local geographical knowledge of Slowhands comes to the fore. He indicates that Cinderford / Hinders Lane /Bilson / Dockham / Littledean Hill / Littledean Woodside are in the same area. EDWARD and ELIZABETH MORGAN in the censuses of 1861, 1871 and 1881 are living in Cinderford, Bilson or East Dean and EDWARD MORGAN is living in Dockham at the time of the censuses of 1841 and 1851.

The evidence that the EDWARD MORGAN married to ELIZABETH in the censuses of 1861-81 is the brother of my HENRY MORGAN is compelling. A marriage certificate of EDWARD and ANN and a death certificate or MI for ANN is outstanding and I shall keep a weather eye open for this data.

Chris Morgan


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