Edward Morgan/Elizabeth Waite (Betsy) Family (General)

by slowhands , proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Saturday, January 12, 2008, 22:22 (6162 days ago) @ wamorgan

The 1861 (image) http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=8124#p8125
throws up some interesting questions :-

Why did the enumerator explicitly give Elizabeth a surname , all other wifes were -ditto- the husbands surname ?

A daughter Rebecca born abt 1857 is shown , by 1871 a son Richard is recorded - is Rebecca an error for Richard ? < perhaps the field notes read Richar D, and were written up as Rebeca Dau>

Is this Richard/Rebecca MORGAN actually the child baptised as WAITE ?

Year 1857
Month May
Day 17
Parents Surname WAITE
Child Forename(s) Richard
Father's Forename(s) [not stated]
Mother's Forename(s) Elizabeth
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Cinderford
Occupation Single woman
Officiating Minister J G Smythies
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P85 IN 1/1
Page No 89
Parish_Chapel Cinderford St Johns

My instinct is that they were living as man and wife in 1861, until 1867

again they go to Drybrook to marry rather than use Cinderford St Johns, where I suspect the WAITEs were well known ( Ruspidge is nearby, and Soudley is not too far)

Year 1867
Month Sept
Day 1

Groom Surname MORGAN
Groom Forename(s) Edward
Groom Age at Marriage 45
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession Collier
Groom Residence Bilson Green
Groom Father's Surname
Groom Father's Forename(s)
Groom Father's Rank or Profession

Bride Surname WAILE
Bride Forename(s) Betsy
Bride Age at Marriage 28
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence Bilson Green
Bride Father's Surname Waile
Bride Father's Forename(s) John
Bride Father's Rank or Profession Collier

Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both Signed
Witness 1 Job Jenkins
Witness 2 Harriet Jenkins
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister William Barker
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P109 IN 1/6
Page No 219
Parish_Chapel Drybrook

after thought

I suspect this is a child born before the parents married in Drybook (a different minister, which may explain the apparent tolerance)
They are living on Littledean Hill, i.e. the top of modern Cinderford, less than a mile down the hill towards Cinderford Bridge and Ruspidge to St Johns, and yet they travel nearly 3 miles out through Steam Mills and Nailbridge to Harry Hill and Drybrook church for the Baptism ??

Year 1864
Month Jan
Day 17
Parents Surname MORGAN
Child Forename(s) Edward
Father's Forename(s) Edward
Mother's Forename(s) Elizabeth
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Little Dean Hill
Occupation Collier
Officiating Minister William Lockett
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P/109 IN 1/3
Page No 20
Parish_Chapel Drybrook