Other Children of Sidney & Helen/Ellen Bowdler c1910s (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Thursday, October 04, 2012, 15:31 (4436 days ago) @ Jefff

Bowdler siblings, still in the Littledean Hill/Cinderford area:-

Also from this site's PRs:
Record ID 339731
Entry Number
Year 1918
Month Oct
Day 28
Parents Surname BOWDLER
Child Forenames Eileen
Fathers Forenames Sidney Francis
Mothers Forenames Ellen
Mothers Surname
Residence Cinderford
Occupation provision dealer
Officiating Minister F W Baldwin vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda born Sep 30
Notes
Register Reference P85/1 IN 1/3
Page Number 52
Parish Chapel Cinderford St John

Is this another silent "H" Ellen as remarked on another post this week , or maybe not given the daughter's name, Eileen ??

Record_ID: 332774
Entry_Number: 334
Year: 1906
Month: Sep
Day: 9
Parents_Surname: BOWDLER
Child_Forenames: Frederick Cecil
Fathers_Forenames: Sidney Francis
Mothers_Forenames: Helen
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Dockham Road
Occupation: Insurance Agent
Officiating_Minister: W H M Hancock
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/2 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 42
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen
Soundex: B346

Interesting to see that father Sidney was clearly a man of many talents, trying all sorts of jobs to support his family, good man !

Re Fred on the 1911 Census, from GlosBMD:
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
BOWDLER Frederick Cecil NASH May Forest of Dean Cinderford St John the Evangelist 1933 4 113

Record_ID: 1014548
Entry_Number:
Year: 1933
Month: Dec
Day: 26
Grooms_Surname: BOWDLER
Grooms_Forenames: Frederick Cecil
Grooms_Age: 27
Groom_Condition: bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: coal merchant
Grooms_Residence: Church Rd
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: BOWDLER
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Sidney Francis
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: contractor
Brides_Surname: NASH
Brides_Forenames: May
Brides_Age: 22
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: St White's Rd
Brides_Fathers_Surname: NASH
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Frederick
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: [decd]
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: R T Bowdler
Witness_2: Frederick Nash
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: C Paul Glidden
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 57
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex_Groom: B346
Soundex_Bride: N200

Marriage from GlosBMD:
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
WILKINS Robert BOWDLER Eileen Forest of Dean Cinderford Woodside St Stephen 1939 3 174

Record_ID: 78748
Entry_Number: 174
Year: 1939
Month: Oct
Day: 15
Grooms_Surname: WILKINS
Grooms_Forenames: Robert
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: Omnibus Driver
Grooms_Residence: 101 Bellevue Road
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Wilkins
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John Moses
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Miner
Brides_Surname: BOWDLER
Brides_Forenames: Eileen
Brides_Age: 21
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Swan Hotel
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Bowdler
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Sidney Francis
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Licensed Victualler
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: S W Giles
Witness_2: G Bowdler
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: F W Potts Hicks Officiating Minister
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: 2nd Witness could be C Bowdler
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/2 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 87
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen
Soundex_Groom: W425
Soundex_Bride: B346

SO in 1939 just 3 years after the double wedding, father Sidney is a Licensed Victualler nearby at.... the Swan Hotel, well there's a "surprise" ... !
Methinks like many newspaper stories there's more to it than just the story... was he too busy running his pub and preparing the reception "spread" to attend the ceremony ?.

From FreeBMD:
Deaths Jun 1953 (>99%)
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BOWDLER Sidney F 71 F.of Dean 7b 318

Ancestry free-search confirms this entry is Sidney Francis Bowdler, and also references a National Probate Calendar Entry.

Who's this ?

Record_ID: 1010775
Entry_Number: 316
Year: 1917
Month: Feb
Day: 1
Surname: BOWDLER
Forenames: Ellen
Residence: SuttonLittledeanGlos
Age_at_death: 39
Officiating_Minister: T.E.Buck
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: 281917
Notes:
Register_Reference: D6514 1/3
Page_No:
Parish_Chapel: Littledean Independent
Soundex: B346

Whoever she is I can't help thinking she's a relative. So there IS a place near Littledean called Sutton. Could she be Sidney's first wife Ellen, assuming of course Ellen died young and he remarried - no evidence at all yet altho her age seems right! ?. A little frustrating that the newspaper report only names "Mrs Bowdler" when full names are given to everyone else.

Re "Sutton", this PR confirms its a Littledean place afer all, I suspect this is the same Farm recorded as Barnham earlier, MUST check the maps. Unsure how this PR fits tho...

Record_ID: 7154
Entry_Number: 122
Year: 1915
Month: Sep
Day: 15
Surname: BOWDLER
Forenames: Sidney Francis
Residence: Baynham Farm Sutton
Age_at_death: 16
Officiating_Minister: F W Baldwin Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: By Coroners Order
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/15
Page_No: 16
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: B346

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I see on Ancestry theres a Member's Tree relating to this Marriage with a copy of the Marriage Certificate etc. I do hope they know about the Newspaper Article, perhaps another Ancestry subscriber reading this can advise them, please ?.