Daughters of "Mr & Mrs Albert Roberts" (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Thursday, October 04, 2012, 17:29 (4439 days ago) @ Jefff

Please don't think I'm biased towards just researching the Bowdlers, but I can find little or no references to the Roberts brides in the various websites; except to say there are a heckuva lot of Roberts in the Forest, the name Lillian is a popular Roberts name and they may well be from Soudley area as per the original post, so not far from Littledean Hill.

Searching for brides parents "Mr & Mrs Albert Roberts" on FoD PRs, not surprisingly Albert is also a VERY popular Roberts name with plenty of possibles altho not in Soudley. Can't see any clear clues but these may be relevant....

This MAY be them given the location ?:

Record_ID: 78354
Entry_Number: 29
Year: 1912
Month: Jun
Day: 10
Grooms_Surname: ROBERTS
Grooms_Forenames: Frank Albert
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: Wheelwright
Grooms_Residence: Minsterworth
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Roberts
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Moses
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Signalman
Brides_Surname: JONES
Brides_Forenames: Laura Nell
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Cinderford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Jones
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Charles Edmund
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Mechanic
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Harriet Ann Roberts
Witness_2: James Arthur Laycock
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: J Martin Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/2 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 15
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen
Soundex_Groom: R163
Soundex_Bride: J520

So this Albert Roberts claims he was born abt 1887.

Record_ID: 78722
Entry_Number: 148
Year: 1938
Month: Feb
Day: 12
Grooms_Surname: ROBERTS
Grooms_Forenames: Frank Albert
Grooms_Age: 30
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Abenhall
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Roberts
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Albert
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: GAZZARD
Brides_Forenames: Evelyn
Brides_Age: 22
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: Domestic Servant
Brides_Residence: Woodside Street Cinderford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Garrard
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Frank
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Miner
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Ivor Verdse Twigg
Witness_2: Gladys Ivy Roberts
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: F W Potts Hicks Officiating Minister
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: Bride Signs Evelyn Gazzard Register could be Gazzard or Garrard.
Register_Reference: P85/2 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 74
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen
Soundex_Groom: R163
Soundex_Bride: G263

Frank Albert Roberts was born "abt" 1908.

I think this might be them in the 1911 Census, from the names & occupations rather than the location, but there are other Albert Roberts abt Cinderford etc etc:

Four room Household at Yew Tree Patch, Plump Hill, Nr Mitcheldean, Glos

Albert Roberts Head abt 1881 30 Male Married 4yrs Collier Hewer, Below Ground East Dean, Gloucestershire
Lily Roberts Wife abt 1886 25 Female Married 4yrs East Dean, Gloucestershire
Lewis Phillips Boarder abt 1888 23 Male Single Collier Hewer, Below Ground East Dean, Gloucestershire
Albert Frank Roberts Son abt 1908 3 Male East Dean, Gloucestershire
May Lilly Roberts Daughter abt 1910 1 Female East Dean, Gloucestershire

Or how about this one also in the 1911 Census ?
Three room household at Roughet Lane, Little Dean.

William Roberts Head abt 1873 38 Male Married 11yrs House Keeper Underground, Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Roberts Wife abt 1880 31 Female Married 11yrs Cinderford, Gloucestershire
Dorothy Roberts Daughter abt 1903 8 Female Little Dean, Gloucestershire Henry Roberts Son abt 1905 6 Male Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Albert Roberts Son abt 1907 4 Male Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Alfred Roberts Son abt 1908 3 Male Little Dean, Gloucestershire
Winifred Roberts Daughter abt 1909 2 Female Little Dean, Gloucestershire

Possibly related, from the 1911 Census:
Three rooms household at Dockham Road, Cinderford, again correct locality.

Albert Roberts Head abt 1859 52 Male Married 22yrs Fireman At Colliery stationary Engine Cinderford, Gloucestershire
Sarah Roberts Wife abt 1859 52 Female Married 22yrs Cinderford, Gloucestershire

HOWEVER the Census shows NO children born alive to present marriage, altho perhaps it's possible this could have been misinterpreted as none still in household ?
They were married abt 1889.

Record_ID: 74396
Entry_Number: 15
Year: 1859
Month: Jan
Day: 30
Parents_Surname: ROBERTS
Child_Forenames: Albert Alfred
Fathers_Forenames: George
Mothers_Forenames: Ellen Mary Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Deans Hill
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: T.G.Smythies
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 2
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John
Soundex: R163