John JONES born about 1836 near Whitecroft (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 01:32 (4137 days ago) @ Paul Andrews

Wow !, thanks gents, great work, very cunning indeed.

First, for Angela's benefit, the 1881 Census transcript posted by supersleuth Slowhands quoting "Wolverston Glos" as place of birth for John should read Woolaston, on the Severn very near Lydney & Whitecroft (I don't know any Wolverston in our County at all).

Secondly, I've tried searching out John in my 1851 Census cd and think this is him, a close match for Paul's suggestion born 1836. (I cannot see any households with a George in too). As well as being clearly the best match wrt parents, witness & locality out of several "possibles" in the Census, it also nicely echos the 1881 mention of Woolaston.

2443 1851 CENSUS HO107/2443 FF.0482-0494 ED.1A LYDNEY 3
Piece: 2443 Folio: 0491 Schedule: 058
Address: Woollastone

JONES James HD M 53 Ag Lab GLS Hewelsfield (c1798)
JONES Mary WI M 46 - GLS Thornbury (c1805)
JONES James SO U 27 Ag Lab GLS Hewelsfield (c1824)
JONES Daniel SO U 23 Ag Lab GLS Hewelsfield (c1828)
JONES Sarah DA U 21 - GLS Hewelsfield (c1830)
JONES Frances DA U 19 - GLS Hewelsfield (c1832)
JONES John SO U 17 Ag Lab GLS Hewelsfield (c1834)
JONES William SO - 15 Ag Lab GLS Woollastone [Woolaston] (c1836)
JONES Henery SO - 13 - GLS Woollastone [Woolaston] (c1838)
JONES Vensennon DA - 11 - GLS Woollastone [Woolaston] (c1840)
JONES Emma DA - 7 - GLS Woollastone [Woolaston] (c1844)
JONES Harriet DA - 3 - GLS Woollastone [Woolaston] (c1848)

A shame they're not miners but this is before the mining boon really took off. Given the size of the family perhaps no surprise if one of the eldest brothers might have flown the nest ?

I've also found the above household on my 1841 Census cd, not the best quality scan but it's clear that the oldest child present is Sarah, sadly no George or even James & Daniel in this instance, perhaps they are all together elsewhere ?.

Many and more of the above Baptisms can be found on this FoD site's PRs, the earliest are at Hewelsfield Chapel with the family resident in the Hart Hill & Brockweir Common areas.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Hewelsfield/Gaz1868.html

Searching the Jones marriages for grooms Jones, father James, hoping to find a witness George but no luck. However Henry b1838 is living in WHITECROFT when he marries:

Record ID 14669
Entry Number 458
Year 1860
Month Apr
Day 28
Grooms Surname JONES
Grooms Forenames Henry
Grooms Age 22
Groom Condition Bachelor
Grooms Occupation Collier
Grooms Residence Whitecroft
Grooms Fathers Surname Jones
Grooms Fathers Forenames James
Grooms Fathers Occupation Labourer
Brides Surname BLANCH
Brides Forenames Amelia
Brides Age 22
Brides Condition Spinster
Brides Occupation [not stated]
Brides Residence Whitecroft
Brides Fathers Surname Blanch
Brides Fathers Forenames Stephen
Brides Fathers Occupation Cordwainer
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of Banns
Signature or Mark both mark
Witness 1 James Wintle Blanch
Witness 2 Esther James
Other Witnesses
Officiating Minister [illegible] Ebsworth
Event Marriage
Memoranda Incumbent
Notes
Register Reference P145 IN 1/20
Page Number 229
Parish Chapel Parkend

Also:

Record ID 28142
Entry Number 137
Year 1851
Month Apr
Day 13
Grooms Surname JONES
Grooms Forenames William
Grooms Age Full
Groom Condition Bachelor
Grooms Occupation Fireman
Grooms Residence Hewelsfield
Grooms Fathers Surname Jones
Grooms Fathers Forenames James
Grooms Fathers Occupation Labourer
Brides Surname WYATT
Brides Forenames Amelia
Brides Age Full
Brides Condition Spinster
Brides Occupation [not stated]
Brides Residence Hewelsfield
Brides Fathers Surname Wyatt
Brides Fathers Forenames Charles
Brides Fathers Occupation Labourer
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of Banns [not stated]
Signature or Mark He marks she signs
Witness 1 Mark of William Bird
Witness 2 Mark of Mary A. Jones
Other Witnesses
Officiating Minister Ferdinand W. Becker.
Event Marriage
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P175 IN 1/7
Page Number 69
Parish Chapel Hewelsfield