Alfred POPE b1837, a Lydney Tailor ? (General)

by Jefff , West London, Middlesex, Monday, January 26, 2015, 00:06 (3590 days ago) @ slowhands

The above thread mentions this household

1841 Coleford Sparrowshill ?
John Pope abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England Newland Gloucestershire
Alfred Pope abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Newland Gloucestershire
Harriet Pope abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Newland Gloucestershire
Jesse Pope abt 1821 Newland Gloucestershire
Maria Pope abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Newland Gloucestershire"

I wonder if this Alfred was also a Tailor like his Cinderford descendants ?, based on this charming Obituary found within the Welsh Newspapers website;

From the Glamorgan Gazette of 10th April 1914

"The funeral of Mr Alfred Pope (85), a tailor of Lydney, took place in the parish churchyard at Lydney on Saturday. Mr Pope was a very active man, and up to two years ago reguarly rode his bicycle, and at 82 did 52 miles in one day upon his bicycle, and then challenged to ride, walk or box any man in the country at his age. He was a very in- teresting old gentleman, being of a most humane and kind-hearted disposition. The deceased was buried in his frock coat and collar."

see http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3885618/ART36/lydney

So Alfred died in 1914 aged 85, hence born abt 1830

His 1830 birth is confirmed by this site's PRs;

Record_ID: 266270
Entry_Number: 492
Year: 1914
Month: Apr
Day: 4
Surname: POPE
Forenames: Alfred
Residence: Lydney
Age_at_death: 84
Officiating_Minister: G Elliott
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/37
Page_No: 62
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
Soundex: P100

I cannot find his Marriage Record, but the Census records via Ancestry show he was indeed a tailor in Lydney most of his life, since 1841 at least. Alfred was born in Minchinhampton Glos abt 1830, by the 1861 Census he was married to Mary (born Lydney c1824) with children Susan M (7y) and George B (9y), and by 1911 was a widow living at Willow Brook Villa, 3 New Road, Lydney.

Here is wife Mary, dates fit the Census data;

Record_ID: 27606
Entry_Number: 192
Year: 1885
Month: Aug
Day: 28
Surname: POPE
Forenames: Mary
Residence: Bath Road Lydney
Age_at_death: 62
Officiating_Minister: John J.Trollope
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/13
Page_No: 25
Parish_Chapel: Lydney
Soundex: P100

Their Daughter Susan, from GlosBMD;

Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
POPE Susan Matilda POPE POPE SAUNDERS 1853 Forest of Dean Chepstow, Lydney 6 250
POPE Susan Matilda POPE POPE BAILEY 1853 Forest of Dean Chepstow, Lydney 6 250

I'm unable to trace Mary's birth or previous marriage records, or any other family records.

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UPDATE: Continued searching "Lydney" within the Welsh News site gave this story which appears to relate to Alfred's son, George B Pope.

From the Cardiff Evening Express of 7th May 1894;

"The Disappearance of an Overseer.
A week has now gone and there are no tidings of Mr. G. B. Pope, the assistant-overseer for Lydney, who failed last Monday morning to put in an appearance at the audit of his accounts at Chepstow. Mr. A.E. Clarke, the retiring overseer, who proceeded to Loudon early in the week, has not succeeded in gaining any intelligence about the missing man."

http://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=posting&edit=45424&back=entry

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