WW1 Soldier P.J. HERBERT, "of" Cinderford, Medal sale. (General)

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Saturday, June 08, 2019, 21:34 (836 days ago) @ Jefff


FamilySearch also has;

Name Philip John Herbert
Event Type Military Service
Event Year 1914
Residence Place Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Age 36
Military Company/Regiment Royal Army Service Corps
Military Regiment S/3/022922
Military Battalion 24th Field Battery
Birth Year (Estimated) 1878
Birthplace Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England
Citing this Record
"United Kingdom, World War I Service Records, 1914-1920,"

I'm confused by mention of the 24th Field Battery who are presumably Artillery ?. If it's a correct transcription then I guess his role in the RASC was to supply ammunition, but it seems unlikely he was only supplying just one unit ?
I cannot find any reference to this unit in the Royal Artillery.

The Long Trail website (below) shows the RASC was also responsible for the Army's bakeries. Was the record actually "Bakery", not "Battery" ?. Indeed, the 1901 Census show's he was once a "confectioner".



As posted earlier, his parents & siblings are;

1881 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Thomas Herbert Head M 37 Iron miner. Brockweir, Gloucestershire, England
Ellen Herbert Wife F 29 Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Sarah E Herbert Daughter F Scholar. 10 Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Edith Herbert Daughter F Scholar. 8 Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Annie Herbert Daughter F Scholar. 6 Bream, Gloucestershire, England
John Herbert Son M 4 Scholar. Bream, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Herbert Son M 2 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England

1871 Monmouthshire, Wales, United Kingdom
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
William Davis Head M 58 Coal miner. Newport, Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Davis Wife F 59 Bream, Gloucestershire
Thomas Herbert Son-in-law M 23 Labourer. Brookshir, Gloucestershire
Ellen Herbert Daughter F 20 Coleford, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Davis Daughter F 11 Yorkley, Gloucestershire
Sarah E Herbert Daughter-in-law F 0 Bream Eaves, Gloucestershire

1861 Hewelsfield, Gloucestershire, England,
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Philip Herbert Head M 42 Butcher. Gloucester Hewelsfield,
Elizabeth Herbert Wife F 42 Monmouth Penallt,
Thomas Herbert Son M 14 Butcher's son. Gloucester St Briavels,
Ann Daughter F 10 Gloucester Hewelsfield,
George Son M 7 Gloucester Hewelsfield,
Isaac Herbert Son M 6 Gloucester Hewelsfield,
Mary Herbert Daughter F 4 Gloucester Hewelsfield,
Elizabeth Herbert Daughter F 1 Gloucester Hewelsfield

1851 Field Gate, Hewelsfield, Hewelsfield, Monmouthshire, Wales.
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Herbert Head M 73 Widower. Butcher. Penalt, Monmouthshire
Phillip Herbert Son M 32 Butcher. Hewelsfield, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Herbert F 32 Penalt, Monmouthshire
Thomas Herbert Son M 6 St Braivels, Gloucestershire
Sara Ann Herbert Daughter F 0 Hewelsfield, Gloucestershire
James Herbert Son M 21 Butcher At Home. Hewelsfield, Gloucestershire
Isaac Herbert Son M 17 Labourer. Hewelsfield, Gloucestershire
Mariann Worgan Servant F 13 Hewelsfield, Gloucestershire


Philip's parents & siblings stayed in the Dean after he left, but are now in Cinderford St John parish;

1891 East Dean, Gloucestershire
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Thomas Herbert Head M 47 Iron miner. Gloucestershire, England
Ellen Herbert Wife F 40 Gloucestershire, England
John Herbert Son M 14 Iron miner. Gloucestershire, England
Tom Herbert Son M 12 Gloucestershire, England
Isaac Herbert Son M 10 Gloucestershire, England
Amy Herbert Daughter F 6 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England
Norah Herbert Daughter F 5 Gloucestershire, England
Maud Herbert Daughter F 3 Gloucestershire, England

1901 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Thomas Herbert Head M 56 Coal hewer. Hewelsfield, Gloucestershire
Ellen Herbert Wife F 48 Coal hewer. Bream, Gloucestershire
Tom Herbert Son M 22 Coal hewer. Cinderford, Gloucestershire
Isaac Herbert Son M 20 Cinderford, Gloucestershire
Maud Herbert Daughter F 11 Ruspidge, Gloucestershire
Willie Herbert Son M 7 Cinderford, Gloucestershire

1911 West Dean, Parkend, Monmouthshire, England
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Thomas Herbert Head M 67 Inn keeper. Brockwier, Gloucestershire
Ellen Herbert Wife F 62 Newland, Gloucestershire
Maude Herbert Daughter F 22 Cinderford, Gloucestershire
William Herbert Grandson M 17 Westbury On Severn

Cannot definitely find his parent's burials, but at his sister Maude's marriage our Philip was a witness.
Was he a visitor, or back living here ?

Record_ID: 160411
Entry_Number: 414
Year: 1923
Month: Apr
Day: 2
Grooms_Surname: SEVILLE
Grooms_Forenames: Ernest Morton
Grooms_Age: 40
Groom_Condition: bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: engineer
Grooms_Residence: Llanguick
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: SEVILLE
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Samuel decd
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: bootmaker
Brides_Surname: HERBERT
Brides_Forenames: Maud Mary
Brides_Age: 33
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Residence: Moseley Gn
Brides_Fathers_Surname: HERBERT
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas decd
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: innkeeper
Licence_or_Banns: banns
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Philip John Herbert
Witness_2: James Robt Anderson
Other_Witnesses: Irene May Moundiss[?]
Officiating_Minister: D J Banham vicar
Event: Marriage
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/22
Page_Number: 207
Parish_Chapel: Parkend
Soundex_Groom: S140
Soundex_Bride: H616


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