WW1 Soldier Stanley HERBERT of Drybrook, East Dean. (General)

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, June 11, 2019, 20:20 (14 days ago) @ Jefff

Stanley's parents continued;

Record_ID: 130456
Entry_Number:
Year: 1852
Month: Jan
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: HERBERT
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: George
Mothers_Forenames: Sophia
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Brierly
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: H G Nicholls
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 107
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: H616


Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
HERBERT John GRINDLE 1851 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 12 98


Record_ID: 202773
Entry_Number: 110
Year: 1843
Month: Dec
Day: 2
Grooms_Surname: HERBERT
Grooms_Forenames: George
Grooms_Age: Full age
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Exparochial part of St Briavels
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Herbert
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: GRINDLE
Brides_Forenames: Sophia
Brides_Age: under age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: No business or profession
Brides_Residence: Exparochial part of St Briavels
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Grindle
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: George
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: he marks she signs
Witness_1: Mark of John Herbert
Witness_2: Henry Webb
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Arthur Stonhouse Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AO19/11
Page_Number: 55
Parish_Chapel: Walford
Soundex_Groom: H616
Soundex_Bride: G653


Note Sophia is marginally "under age", born abt 1824;

1841 "Dean Walk In Dean Forest, Little"
Forest Green, Gloucestershire, England
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Joseph Grindall M 28 Gloucestershire
John Grindall M 20 Gloucestershire
Charles Grindall M 19 Gloucestershire
Sophia Grindall F 17 Gloucestershire
Susan Grindall F 15 Gloucestershire
Georg Grindall M 13 Gloucestershire
Willam Grindall M 9 Gloucestershire


Possibly ??;

Record_ID: 258731
Entry_Number: 355
Year: 1823
Month: Sep
Day: 21
Parents_Surname: GRINDAL
Child_Forenames: Sophia
Fathers_Forenames: Charles
Mothers_Forenames: Susan
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hundred of St Briavels
Occupation: Coal Miner
Officiating_Minister: T R Garnsey Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 45
Parish_Chapel: Littledean
Soundex: G653


Finally, no Burial PR but;

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1898
Herbert Sophia 74 Westbury S. 6a 183

Confirms born abt 1824.


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As well as Stanley's father John, George and Sophia also had a younger son, George.
(This site's PRs also have Baptisms for another 5 of their children, all daughters.
Their first is Susannah in 1845, George is their last in 1864.)


Record_ID: 131390
Entry_Number:
Year: 1864
Month: Jul
Day: 31
Parents_Surname: HERBERT
Child_Forenames: George
Fathers_Forenames: George
Mothers_Forenames: Sophia
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Brierley
Occupation: Collier
Officiating_Minister: William Lockett
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P/109 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 26
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: H616


It seems highly unlikely that this is the same George Herbert of Drybrook who's listed in the Servicemen Database, as he'd have been serving in WW1 aged 50+.

Likewise it's probably not their Grandson George born c1868 according to their 1871 & 1881 Census data. It's not helpful that I cannot find the family's 1861 Census record.
I cannot find his baptism, I think this is him, presumably the illegitimate son of one of their older daughters ? ;

Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry Newnham 30 461
HERBERT George ----- 1866 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 26 485


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