Roots of Annie Bess PALMER living in Lydbrook c1891 (General)

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Thursday, February 16, 2017, 00:33 (1244 days ago) @ Jefff

BNA Gloucester Journal - Saturday 26 April 1941

Mr and Mrs James Brain, formerly of Cinderford, have celebrated their Golden Wedding in Gloucester. They were married at Lydbrook Baptist Chapel on April 11, 1891. his bride lived at Ruardean. Mrs Brain was Miss Annie Bess Palmer, and both families are well known on the Eastern side of the Forest.

Using FamilySearch this appears to be Annie's family a week or so before she married;

1891 Census; Cinder Hill, Ruardean, Ross District, Herefordshire.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William E Palmer Head M 51 Boot & shoe maker. Herefordshire, England
Ann Palmer Wife F 45 Laundress. Kingstanley, Gloucestershire, England
Annie B Palmer Daughter F 21 Single. Waters Cross, Gloucestershire, England
William J Palmer Son M 8 Scholar. Staffordshire, England
Mary Evans Boarder F 76 Widow, retired lady. Herefordshire, England

Cinder Hill is at the western/Lydbrook side of Ruardean, see this prior thread


1881 Census; Woodgreen Rooth Street, Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Wm Edwd Palmer Head M 40 Groom. Hereford, Herefordshire, England
Ann Palmer Wife F 35 Wife. Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Anne Bess Palmer Daughter F 11 Scholar. Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Emily M M Palmer Daughter F 5 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

For background info for Rooth Street, Wood Green, Wednesbury see

The town was renowned for it's coal mines and many heavy engineering concerns, including railway train builders Metro Cammell.


1871 Census; St Peter, Herefordshire, England.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Palmer Head M 31 Gardener. Wigmore, Herefordshire
Ann Palmer Wife F 24 Laundress. King's Stanley, Gloucestershire
Ann B Palmer Daughter F 1 Lydbrook, Gloucestershire

St Peters is a Parish within the city of Hereford.,_Herefordshire_Genealogy
Wigmore is in the far north of the county,

King's Stanley is across the Severn from the Forest, near Stroud.

From FreeBMD,
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1869 (>99%)
Palmer Annie Bess Ross 6a 441

This MAY be her parent's marriage ???,

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)
Lusty Ann Ross 6a 985
Palmer William Ross 6a 985


I half-expected to find that William's father was called Edward.
However this looks like our family;

More from Familysearch site;
1861 Census; Mill Street, Leominster, Herefordshire, Wales.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Elizabeth Palmer Head F 51 Downton, Shropshire
Martha Palmer Daughter F 23 Unmarried. Milliner & Dressmaker. Deerfold, Herefordshire
William Palmer Son M 21 Boot & Shoemaker, Deerfold, Herefordshire

Deerfold is just a couple of miles from Wigmore.,_Herefordshire


1851 Census; Dilwyn, Weobley, Herefordshire, England.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Thomas Palmer Head M 46 Farm labourer. Biton, Radnorshire
Elizabeth Palmer Wife F 41 Downton, Shropshire
Susannah Palmer Daughter F 21 Unmarried. Presteigne, Radnorshire
William Palmer Son M 11 Scholar. Wigmore, Herefordshire

Dilwyn is just a few miles south of Wigmore.


1841 Census; Limebrook Township, Wigmore, Herefordshire, England.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Thomas Palmer M 30-34 Herefordshire
Elizabeth Palmer F 29-33 Herefordshire
Susan Palmer F 11 Not in County
Ann Palmer F 9 Not in County
Thomas Palmer M 7 Herefordshire
Martha Palmer F 4 Herefordshire
William Palmer M 1 Herefordshire


England Births and Christenings
Name William Palmer
Gender Male
Christening Date 02 Feb 1840
Father's Name Thomas Palmer
Mother's Name Elizabeth

This MAY be his parent's marriage, Downton is just 2 miles from Wigmore.

Name Thomas Palmer
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Morris
Event Date 13 Jun 1829
Event Place Downton,Hereford,England

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